Hi Liz, hi everyone,

Thank you very much for this Liz.

I really just want to pull out one section for extra emphasis because there
is so much good information on this issue, some folks might not get to the
ada link, and I think it addresses a previous email about "lets only be
positive" and why that might not be the best model. Here is the quote from
Ada Initiative link that Liz and others have provided, that most resonates
with me

"90% of the effect and work is in being specific, for several reasons:

_The major weapon of harassers is arguing whether something is actually
harassing._ It is difficult to enforce a CoC if you have to have a month
long nasty argument about whether it was violated. _It burns out people
like you._

The list of “don’ts” educates people on what to do, so you avoid problems
in the first place."

We have already seen the second sentence put into practice just in the
discussion about having a CoC.

We must find a way to be specific in what is not welcome in our community.


On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Liz Barry <eba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> These links are so great, i am really appreciating this thread! I will be
> +1 on whatever CoC the group is into practicing on this listserve, it will
> be a big step forward.
> The HOT Complaint Handling Process is super clear -- something like this,
> and like the reporting structure of OSGeo, is critical for a CoC to come
> into practice and not just be another poster on the wall/web. Similarly,
> check out the process described at the top of the anonymous reporting form
> on publiclab.org/conduct. http://sage.thesharps.us/ is a great reference
> on this.
> Being based in rights was critical for Public Lab as we set up a CoC to
> describe how we want to relate to each other, which goes beyond stopping
> harassment as it reframes the internal power dynamics of open source
> communities from being like a clubhouse to being like a society. It is
> useful to explain with clear, mundane examples how to relate to each other
> when introducing sometimes abstract / high minded principles of
> responsibility, empathy, dignity, consent.
> Adjacently, I will mention the book "Conflict Is Not Abuse" by Sarah
> Schulman, which details in a very readable, relatable manner the cost of
> *not* figuring out how to hold a caring democratic space amongst each
> other -- the extension of external power into our individual and community
> lives. I have an inkling that some of the dynamics that she walks through
> might apply to some of the misunderstandings about CoCs that we've seen in
> OSM -- perhaps not enough self-checking, meaning that those whose actions
> are sometimes harassing to others actually perceive themselves as victims
> and continue to escalate in a misdirected effort against peers to resist
> the perceived expansion of external power, when in fact, these escalations
> only weaken our community from the inside out. I would happily re-read this
> book and book club it with any group of people thinking deeply about open
> source community health.
> I am really grateful for everyone here, thanks for reading,
> Liz
> PS, in case you still feel like reading, here's the full sourcing of the
> lineage that we pulled into Public Lab's CoC
> <https://publiclab.org/conduct> (copied from about halfway down in this
> post
> <https://publiclab.org/notes/Shannon/07-06-2016/public-lab-code-of-conduct>
> ).
> We framed the very top of the document with language from in-person
> democratic space holding that emphasizes the combination of respect and
> responsibility. The sentiment of "for democracy to work for everybody..."
> as practiced by the Highlander Center for grassroots organizing and
> movement building in Appalachia / the South is described in the book by
> Miles Horton "The Long Haul: an autobiography". Also see
> http://highlandercenter.org/. We also drew from the Jemez Principles for
> Democratic Organizing <http://www.ejnet.org/ej/jemez.pdf> which was
> written in 1996 by forty people of color and European-American
> representatives who met in Jemez, New Mexico with an "intention of
> hammering out common understandings between participants from different
> cultures, politics and organizations." Carla
> <https://publiclab.org/profile/thegreencommunitygarden> added the
> clarifying points on dignity during interactions.
> For the fundamentals, we looked to the Ada Initiative guide to writing
> Codes of Conduct (CoCs) https://adainitiative.
> org/2014/02/18/howto-design-a-code-of-conduct-for-your-community/,
> specifically these three points:
>    - List specific common behaviors that are not okay
>    - Include detailed directions for reporting violations
>    - Have a defined and documented complaint handling process
> Over that, we added a heavy overlay of JoyConf consent and empathy culture:
>  https://github.com/maitria/code-of-welcome/blob/master/coc.md
> Refinements
>    - After Geek Feminism http://geekfeminism.org/about/code-of-conduct/ and
>    Django https://www.djangoproject.com/conduct/, we described the set of
>    spaces that our community is active in and to which the CoC applies
>    - From @Mathew <https://publiclab.org/profile/Mathew> suggestion of
>    http://stumptownsyndicate.org/about/guiding-principles/
>    <http://stumptownsyndicate.org/about/guiding-principles/> we added a
>    list of who the CoC applies to, seeking to level status
>    - @Klie <https://publiclab.org/profile/Klie> designed the reporting
>    process via anonymous online submission form, and converted the list of
>    unwanted behaviors to "Do's and Don'ts": https://goo.gl/forms/
>    Ma6lEkZ0TuE7D9FZ2 (updated for 2017)
>    - @Kanarinka <https://publiclab.org/profile/Kanarinka> wrote in our
>    existing practice of checking in before posting people on social media
>    - Potentially unique to Public Lab, we created a dual moderators group
>    and facilitation group which cannot entirely be described by an
>    online/offline dichotomy. The Addendum clarifies that staff of the
>    non-profit are additionally bound by their Employment handbooks which meet
>    federal and state laws.
>    - Generally, a lot of solid and clarifying editing by Nick, Shannon,
>    Klie, Carla and Public Lab staffers, and the organizers.
> --
> +1 336-269-1539 <(336)%20269-1539> / @lizbarry
> <http://twitter.com/lizbarry> / lizbarry.net
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Sérgio V. <svo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with this CoC, think it's pretty sufficient. Thanks.
>> Also agree with Blake, I would consider adding to the draft "Offensive
>> comments related to..." something like "national origin, cultural
>> affiliation", as well as "ethnicity", "language", "level of
>> instruction".
>> Things in which people find consists the very being of any people,
>> perhaps could be added; any offensive comments related to the being
>> of someone, its value.
>> And the sort of positive acts that are welcome.
>> I think perhaps the draft could be considered as a CoC already in use
>> here, if it would be needed to invoke it.
>> Any improvements or adjusts could be done on the going.
>> Also, diversity talks lay not only in preventive instances, that
>> instance being assured is good, lay in many subjects related to diversity
>> of people and initiatives too.
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs
>> ------------------------------
>> *De:* Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org>
>> *Enviado:* quinta-feira, 1 de março de 2018 15:53
>> *Para:* Blake Girardot; Paul Norman
>> *Cc:* OSM Diversity
>> *Assunto:* Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this
>> list
>> Hi all,
>> I have put the GF one as a draft on the OSM wiki:
>>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/
>> CodeOfConduct
>> Feel free to edit it as appropriate. At some point I'll go through and
>> add the suggestions.
>> On 28/02/18 15:27, Blake Girardot wrote:
>> > From my perspective, and I am not sure why it is left out of
>> > geekfeminism's policy is that item one under "Harassment includes"
>> > should list "national origin, cultural affiliation" to address the
>> > issue of people making offensive comments about people from
>> > particular countries or cultures.
>> Agreed. "national origin" has been included in anti-racism laws in the
>> UK since the 1960s.
>> > We might even include something like "OpenStreetMap participation
>> > style" in that list so we do not have to tolerate disparaging remarks
>> > about remote mappers, craft mappers, newbie mappers or folks that
>> > participate through non-mapping contributions.
>> Broadly in favour. Ilya Zverik said:
>> > OpenStreetMap needs everything. More editors, more tutorials, more >
>> > rendering styles, more mappers, more software. Anyone has something
>> > to contribute, although most don’t know what to do.
>> http://blog.opencagedata.com/post/openstreetmap-interview-il
>> ya-zverev-level0
>> Is there a chance a broad wording could be interpreted as "Don't
>> criticize reckless, bad faith, mapping *ever*"? 🤔 I wouldn't want that.
>> > And I would change or add to the first line "Offensive or
>> > disparaging comments..." because "disparaging" or "derogatory" are
>> > open to much less debate than the very subjective "offensive". How
>> > many endless discussions will there be (or have their been) about
>> > what is offensive as opposed to the somewhat easier to identify,
>> > disparaging or derogatory comment.
>> Agreed. "offensive" is vague and can be used against marginalized people
>> (e.g. "LGBTQ rights are offensive my sincerely held religious beliefs").
>> Usually I use "harmful", but those work too.
>> On 01/03/18 19:13, Paul Norman wrote:
>> > A couple of issues I would consider if I were doing the selection
>> > again are readability and education or socioeconomic status.
>> Classism is a harmful thing, so I agree we should put that in.
>> Better readability makes it easier for non-native English speakers.
>> Rory
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