On 2019/04/03 13:28:08, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
> [moving comdev back to bcc]
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:06 AM Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 3, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 7:57 AM Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Consider the effort along the lines of development... all development
> > >> needs to be done on list.
> > >
> > > Not all committees operate along the lines of development.
> > > Independent of that, we often complement lists with calls, meetups,
> > > hackathons, etc.
> > >
> > > To the extent that this group does produce tangible products, the
> > > development of those products do need to follow the norms of the ASF;
> > > development may happen on or off list, but needs to be brought back to
> > > the list, and everybody given an opportunity to participate.
> > >
> >
> > Umm a "call/videocall to discuss the proposal details to the board."
> > certainly sounds like a "tangible product" to me.
> >
> > You are free to disagree. I think doing so would be a mistake.
>
> As I said, this has evolved in ways differently than I would have
> expected. My email to Griselda, copying Ross was as follows:
>
> >> Perhaps we should "meet" via call/video to discuss next steps? I'm
> >> concerned with all the various ways this organization has to discourage
> >> such efforts that it will eventually stall.
> >>
> >> I'm on the east coast, and have plenty of afternoon (my time) slots
> >> available tomorrow (Wednesday) and Thursday. I'm not available Friday.
> >> If that doesn't work out, we can shoot for next week.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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Hi Everyone,
I took a couple of days to analyze how to move this forward, and I decided to
cancel the call. The main reason is that we need to create some value and have
something concrete to discuss with the people interested in joining forces - I
don't want to waste people's time. Additionally, I want to make sure we only
have synchronous discussions when needed and with a clear purpose.
I'll cancel the call by the end of the weekend.
@Sam, I'd like to still connect and get your guidance and advice, I want to
understand what you had in mind and the benefits from pursuing different
options with this effort. I want to clarify that this is not a call for a
private meeting, it's a request for mentorship on how to lead this.
In the meantime, I've started adding issues to the board, if you're reading
this hoping to know how to get involved, please start monitoring issues and
putting your name in them.
Happy Friday on this side of the world.
G
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