On 20-Feb-06, at 5:42 PM, Nick Ragouzis wrote:

 PG2. Existing protocol SAMLv2 is heavy; we want light.

Well 'heavy' and 'light' aren't very rigorous... but I'd say this goes
back to the adoption goal: 'How do we get an internet wide identity
protocol into everyone's hands as quickly as possible?'

As a slight aside, in your 'Setting aside irrelevant or incomplete
histories' post you had lots of nice data points about SAML deployments.
Enlightened me actually. SAML's clearly offering people enough
value that people are building businesses around it and it's being
deployed by big corporations. But... in all my years of Internet surfing
I've never come across a website that said 'Take me to your IdP...', or
'Can I be your Idp...' Never. Am I just cruising the web with my
blinkers on?

There's something about SAML that's meant that developers of
the websites that I frequent haven't chosen to deploy it. Why is
that? That's kinda rhetorical, but I don't want to rant about why
SAML doesn't work for me as a User, Membersite or Homesite
developer, I'd rather one of them stood up and said it.

I think we need to drill into the reasons for PG2.

John



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