Hello, I'm in favor of trying Discourse.
-- Aymeric. > On 10 Aug 2019, at 05:03, Andrew Godwin <and...@aeracode.org> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > This might be slightly controversial, but I would like to propose that we > have a forum for discussing Django development (and potentially user > support), alongside the mailing list and maybe, eventually replacing it. > > My full reasoning is below, but in short, it would be more accessible for new > users, have a better UI, give us the ability to moderate away problematic > posts, be better for privacy, and still allow email-based interaction. > > At DjangoCon AU, the opening keynote was an invited speaker from the Rust > community (E. Dunham, https://twitter.com/QEDunham > <https://twitter.com/QEDunham>). I invite you to watch the full talk if you > are at all interested in how another language handles their community > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW7PxyrCBR0 > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW7PxyrCBR0>), but the takeaway for me was > their use of forums rather than mailing lists. > > The Django mailing lists were an excellent choice when Django began, but I > feel they have aged out of the modern Web somewhat. The user interface for > accessing them is particularly poor, which makes it particularly bad for new > contributors. > > In addition, when looking at how to organise the effort to help bring async > into Django, something more dynamic, and more segmented, than mailing lists > would be incredibly useful. I don't want to drown out the list in specific > discussions of how to port certain features, but we need to have those > discussions somewhere permanent and asynchronous (so not IRC). > > The mutability of a forum is also not to be overlooked - as well as allowing > things like pinned posts and post edits for small issues (or a living header > on a long discussion topic), it also allows for permanent removal of things > that break the Code of Conduct. On the people front, it also allows people to > post without their email being public, allows for name changes, and provides > for someone's right to be forgotten via anonymisation of prior content. > > Now, I'm not suggesting we kill the mailing list and switch over or anything > like that; instead, I suggest we run an instance of Discourse as a test, and > use it as the primary discussion area for async work, as well as anything > else that people want to discuss - with the expectation that anything > important still goes out to this mailing list. > > Why Discourse? Apart from being a mature, open source forum project, it's > also very fully featured, and even supports subscribing and interacting with > the forum over email, so it can still fit into an email-based workflow. There > are also plenty of small niceties, like the option to have it hosted for us > via a paid service, or the ability to use GitHub for login rather than > requiring a separate username and password. It also helps that Rust seems > quite happy with it. > > I'm mostly asking for the "temperature of the room" on this one - if we get > some small objections, I think a trial period is still worthwhile. If there > are major objections, then I'd like to ask people what their alternative > suggestions are for solving this sort of communication. > > Do I think this would replace the mailing list? Not in the short term, but > maybe if it takes off and we all like it better. I personally would interact > with django-developers a whole lot more if I could just subscribe to certain > topics (rather than trying to emulate that with an email filter as I do > now!), and honestly the same thing for django-users. That said, I also > recognise that diluting the support/discussion pool is not exactly an > attractive idea, which is why I'm asking for input! > > Thanks, > Andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAFwN1urJmpwTYqXSF_L57hDLL5-9T4Bkvj9Sb9p8na_-_YWEgA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAFwN1urJmpwTYqXSF_L57hDLL5-9T4Bkvj9Sb9p8na_-_YWEgA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/36310CA0-594B-4EE0-81C1-1C854E5C8A57%40polytechnique.org.