#1207: [PATCH] Manipulators ignore default values, fields can't be omitted from
forms
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 Reporter:  akaihola        |        Owner:  jacob
     Type:  defect          |       Status:  new  
 Priority:  normal          |    Milestone:       
Component:  Core framework  |      Version:       
 Severity:  normal          |   Resolution:       
 Keywords:                  |  
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Comment (by James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):

 This feels like we need to decide, and document more clearly up-front,
 what `default` really means, because it ends up being confusing -- there's
 the way it actually works, and there's the way that a lot of people seem
 to assume it works, and they're two different things. Both make sense, but
 we need to settle on which one is best and document it aggressively.
 
 For the record, here are the two different interpretations, which differ
 on when exactly the value should be filled in:
 
 1. The way it actually works is that the `default` value is pre-filled in
 the FormWrapper instance, so that when the form is displayed to a user,
 the value will be in there -- the user can then leave it as-is, or change
 it if desired.
 2. The way many people seem to assume it works is that the value will be
 filled after the fact if the form comes in with no value for the field in
 question.
 
 The disadvantage of (1) is that, in order to take advantage of the default
 value, you must actually include the field in what the end user sees;
 otherwise, the field comes back with no value and the only reasonable
 thing for Django to assume is that the user manually changed the value
 from its default to blank; often this will end up tripping a validation
 error, because the undisplayed field is usually going to be required.
 
 The disadvantage of (2) is that it we could end up having to do lots of
 second-guessing about input values -- did the user really mean to submit
 an empty string (which is not inconceivable), in which case it should be
 left alone, or did the user leave the field alone (or was the field left
 out of the end user's display), in which case it should be replaced with
 the default. That seems like it could be quite a can of worms.

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Ticket URL: <http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/1207>
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