#23587: Paragraph on over-riding base_html can be misread as to WHAT needs to be
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     Reporter:  Pyrrhicv       |      Owner:  nobody
         Type:  Uncategorized  |     Status:  new
    Component:  Documentation  |    Version:  1.7
     Severity:  Normal         |   Keywords:  base_site.html tutorial 2
 Triage Stage:  Unreviewed     |  Has patch:  0
Easy pickings:  0              |      UI/UX:  0
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 In Django 1.7 (1.6 is the same) Tutorial 2 - Section: "Customizing your
 project’s templates" At approximately para. it reads:

 '''Then, just edit the file and replace {{ site_header|default:_('Django
 administration') }} with your own site’s name as you see fit, e.g. {{
 _('Polls administration') }}. We use this approach to teach you how to
 override templates. In an actual project, you would probably use the
 django.contrib.admin.AdminSite.site_header attribute to more easily make
 this particular customization.
 '''
 I would recommend providing a little more of the code surrounding (or just
 provide all of the small amount of code in base_site.html) to give context
 to newbie tutorial followers (like me!).  What happened to me and it cost
 me many person-hours was that I read the text as meaning that you replaced
 what was in the single quotes and the rest was for context.  However, I
 finally found a post on stack overflow in a reference to another post that
 showed that the whole works had to be replaced.  I think it may depend on
 the state of mind or possibly other variables (such as the 'site header
 default' portion of the material to be replaced that suggests to the
 newbies following the tutorial that that is context and not to be
 replaced.  Bottom line: when people read this, based on what I found in
 the fora, it is not uncommon that they do not read it as replacing all of
 the code.  The instant I read someone else's explanation the original text
 made 100% sense - but that does not help the poor noob who reads it and
 mis-constructs what s/he is to do.


 Finally, the 'e.g. {{ _('Polls administration') }}.' is not clear to a
 newbie either.  Replacing '{{ _('Polls administration') }}' with '{{
 _('Polls administration') }}' throws an error on my CentOS
 6.5/django1.7/Python3.4x install.  The solution that worked for me is
 cut&pasted here:
 '''
 {% block title %}{{ title }} |   Django POLLS Site Admin   {% endblock %}
 '''
 Note: NO double curly brackets around "Django POLLS Site Admin" - so...I
 think that the 'e.g' may be deceptive too.

 Just for the record my site-name line in my base_site.html for the
 tutorial reads:

 <h1 id="site-name"><a href="{% url 'admin:index' %}">Django Polls
 Administration [@ mysites proj. dir]</a></h1>

 ...also no curly brackets around the text to be displayed.

 Bottom line: the tutorial is unclear here, especially about the mysterious
 curly brackets we newbies are just, barely, getting used to at this point
 in tutorial 2!

 To add clarity for us newbies, the text for this paragraph might read:
 '''
 Then, just edit the file and replace the line {% block title %}{{ title }}
 | {{ site_title|default:_('Django admin') }}{% endblock %} with your own
 site’s name as you see fit, e.g.{% block title %}{{ title }} |   Django
 Polls Administration  {% endblock %}. We use this approach to teach you
 how to override templates. In an actual project, you would probably use
 the django.contrib.admin.AdminSite.site_header attribute to more easily
 make this particular customization.'''

 It would be nice to know for us poor newbies WHY just replacing the text
 in 'site_title|default:_('Django admin') ' does not work.  One would think
 that the text within quotes could be changed to your heart's content and
 the tutorial text implies that this is the case - but it does not work, at
 least not on my copy of django!

 I hope that all of this is of some use and I am not just making a fool of
 myself.

 Best,

 Pyrrhic

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