Read that Python tutorial first, It will answer all your questions . You
need to read the WHOLE thing.

http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html



On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:52 AM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Does our system include a Python Interpreter?
>
> "
>
> The interpreter’s line-editing features usually aren’t very sophisticated.
> On Unix, whoever installed the interpreter may have enabled support for the
> GNU readline library, which adds more elaborate interactive editing and
> history features. Perhaps the quickest check to see whether command line
> editing is supported is typing Control-P to the first Python prompt you
> get. If it beeps, you have command line editing; see Appendix *Interactive
> Input Editing and History 
> Substitution*<http://docs.python.org/tutorial/interactive.html#tut-interacting>
>  for
> an introduction to the keys. If nothing appears to happen, or if ^P is
> echoed, command line editing isn’t available; you’ll only be able to use
> backspace to remove characters from the current line.
>
> "
>
> JJ
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:55 PM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So you feel that that documentation of Python is the best reference? I'm
>> sure it is just wanted to ask.
>>
>> JJ
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Timothy Makobu <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> But first, all of this http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Timothy Makobu <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice. Now read ALL of this http://djangobook.com/en/2.0/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:55 PM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like I am in good shape!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much man!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://madtrak.com/success.png
>>>>>
>>>>> JJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks! Yes sounds like something from my UNIX class. I have now
>>>>>> added it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What will django-admin.py do for me? Oh are you just saying I can run
>>>>>> it from anywhere now? Any of the commands I want to work with 
>>>>>> python/django?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Timothy Makobu <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, iPython is installed now. But now you need to add  
>>>>>>> C:\Python27\Scripts
>>>>>>> to your PATH variable, so you wont have to keep going there to run 
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>> After you add it, you can run django-admin.py, easy_install, iPython ...
>>>>>>> from any directory in cmd.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This link shows you how:
>>>>>>> http://geekswithblogs.net/renso/archive/2009/10/21/how-to-set-the-windows-path-in-windows-7.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay I was able to get something to go there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At first I saw warnings so I wasn't sure but here are the images.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://madtrak.com/ipython1.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://madtrak.com/ipython2.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you think I am in good shape with ipython?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To perform the easy install of django would i execute: easy_install.exe
>>>>>>>> django?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if so would that just overwrite what I have already installed,
>>>>>>>> like would it be good to do it a second time even though I think it 
>>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>>> the first. Honestly, I'd probably leave it for now just wanted your
>>>>>>>> thoughts on easy install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Timothy Makobu <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, you're welcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Easy install is usually in C:\Python27\Scripts
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can go there from within cmd.exe and run "easy_install.exe
>>>>>>>>> ipython"  It should work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:56 PM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had a confirmation from William that I installed Django but you
>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>> iPython would be helpful and since I don't remember much Python I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> hoping to make that work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for taking the time to help me get started you're a
>>>>>>>>>> life saver! : )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 11:56 pm, Timothy Makobu <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >    - Install setup toolshttp://
>>>>>>>>>> pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools/0.6c11
>>>>>>>>>> >    - Go to the command line (cmd.exe) and type
>>>>>>>>>> >       - easy_install django
>>>>>>>>>> >       - easy_install ipython (not needed by django, but very
>>>>>>>>>> useful, as you
>>>>>>>>>> >       will see when you come to running "python manage.py shell"
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > That's all!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:59 AM, JJ Zolper <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > > Okay just so everyone knows!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > I was able to extract the .tar file and I now see the files.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > In order to import these files correctly should I place these
>>>>>>>>>> files in the
>>>>>>>>>> > > install directory of Python 2.7 and then attempt the commands?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Or is the location of Django just arbitrary can I place it
>>>>>>>>>> wherever I like
>>>>>>>>>> > > and then work from the Python prompt?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > JJ
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Ivo Brodien <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> windows users have extracted your command will look like
>>>>>>>>>> this: .......
>>>>>>>>>> > >> to execute the .tar file.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> as tom mentioned, you have to use 7zip two times.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> the tar file is another archive (like .zip, .gz ) which you
>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>> > >> decompress and then you have the django directory and you
>>>>>>>>>> can go on with
>>>>>>>>>> > >> the tutorial.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 17:55 , JJ Zolper wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> JoeLinux,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Oh interesting. It seems the 64 bit version is sort of
>>>>>>>>>> unclear. Any
>>>>>>>>>> > >> help there?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Would I be able to install my Python is well with a smaller
>>>>>>>>>> command? I
>>>>>>>>>> > >> am back at ground zero because I had to adjust the Python
>>>>>>>>>> version back
>>>>>>>>>> > >> to 2.5 so Django would agree.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I am interested just not sure how to work the 64 bit version.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> JJ
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 11:40 am, Joey Espinosa <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> If you install the "setuptools" package (http://goo.gl/UjFh),
>>>>>>>>>> then all
>>>>>>>>>> > >> you
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> have to do to install Django (or any other Python library)
>>>>>>>>>> is this:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> easy_install django
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> And it will handle the rest. Just a suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> --
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Software Developerhttp://about.me/joelinux
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 2011 10:37 AM, "Tom Evans" <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:00 AM, JJ Zolper <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I am new to Django! I was able to download and install:
>>>>>>>>>> Python 2.7.2
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> x86 64 on my Windows 7 64 bit machine. I think that is all
>>>>>>>>>> that I will
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> need to execute the command line?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I installed Python to C:/Python27 as the program intended.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I then downloaded: Django-1.3.1.tar.gz file and was try to
>>>>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> where to go to next. I used the 7 zip to extract it to:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Django-1.3.1.tar. But I wasn't sure the next steps. I opened
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Python cmd prompt. I typed the command in: tar xzvf
>>>>>>>>>> Django-*.tar.gz.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> But I got errors about the portion "xzvf" I feel that the
>>>>>>>>>> directories
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> are not set up correctly. Do I need to adjust my command for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> directory because I already tried that.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I would really appreciate a step through that would get me
>>>>>>>>>> all set up
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> with the baseline. I am interested to moving on from to the
>>>>>>>>>> more in
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> depth chapters. I tried hard to understand the input from
>>>>>>>>>> the comments
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> on the page but I was unable to find anything that gave me
>>>>>>>>>> any sense
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> of direction on how to place the Django files.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> JJ
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> PS. sorry this is available and I didn't see it in the new
>>>>>>>>>> booklet.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> tar.gz is a gzipped (.gz) tape archive (.tar) file. 7zip
>>>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> able to gunzip it and extract the files from the archive -
>>>>>>>>>> it might
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> require two steps.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> The 'tar xzvf…' command is how one extracts a tar.gz under
>>>>>>>>>> unix/linux
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> from the OS command line - not the python command line. As
>>>>>>>>>> the docs
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> say, you can download and install bsdtar in windows, in
>>>>>>>>>> which case the
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> OS command would be 'bsdtar zxvf …'.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> This is the second time this week someone has had issues
>>>>>>>>>> extracting a
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> tgz on windows - any chance that django could be packaged up
>>>>>>>>>> in a more
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Windows friendly zip file format in addition to tgz?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Tom
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/install/#installing-an-o.
>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>> >
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