@somecallitblues: pycharm is not free, right? but i am really willing to 
give a try for this. i am using for years Aptana studio which is completely 
fullfulling my wishes, but "pycharm loves django" sounds great! 

Am Mittwoch, 30. Mai 2012 15:59:13 UTC+2 schrieb somecallitblues:

> You seriously have to give PyCharm a go. It's everything IDE should be and 
> loves django.
>
> On 30 May 2012 23:40, Bill Freeman <ke1g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
>> <wlfr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 28 May 2012 05:37:43 -0700 (PDT), coded kid
>> > <duffleboi...@gmail.com> declaimed the following in
>> > gmane.comp.python.django.user:
>> >
>> >> I'm in a big mess now, I've lost my projects due to this errror. I'm
>> >> on windows, This is how I encounter the problem; I try to edit my
>> >> settings.py in IDLE. After right clicking on the files, I choose open
>> >> program with these default file. I choose idle window bat file, and I
>> >> clicked Ok. It didn't open, I try to run manage.py runserver on my
>> >> DOS. Not working, it will pop up the IDLE Shell and mange.py script by
>> >> displaying it in IDLE. It didn't run the server. The logo of my python
>> >> files have changed. How can I revert it back to open with IDLE? And
>> >> use it as default for my python script?
>> >
>> >        IDLE itself is a Python script; though it sounds like you (or
>> > someone) created a Windows BAT file to act as an intermediate.
>> >
>> >        The main problem appears to be that you've associated the "open"
>> > action with /IDLE/... The normal "open" action for Python (.py) script
>> > files should be Python.exe (or Pythonw.exe for .pyw). For editing you
>> > should have/create a <right-click>"Edit" action that invokes your IDLE
>> > BAT file.
>> >
>> >        You'll need to work with the file association commands in 
>> Windows to
>> > reset things so that "open" means RUN the script.
>> >
>> >        Unfortunately, different installations have used different names 
>> for
>> > the file types. Here are mine (I had to do "ftype" with no arguments and
>> > scan the long output to find the Python entries):
>> >
>> > E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documents>ftype py_auto_file
>> > py_auto_file="E:\Python25\python.exe" "%1" %*
>> >
>> > E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documents>ftype pyw_auto_file
>> > pyw_auto_file="E:\Python25\pythonw.exe" "%1"
>> >
>> >
>> >        Note that ftype only defines the "open"/"run" action for a file.
>> > (Interesting -- the .pyw doesn't take command line arguments, probably
>> > to be expected for a double-click open).
>> >
>> >        The other half of the basic equation is the file extension to 
>> "file
>> > type" association:
>> >
>> > E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documents>assoc .py
>> > .py=py_auto_file
>> >
>> > E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documents>assoc .pyc
>> > File association not found for extension .pyc
>> >
>> > E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documents>assoc .pyw
>> > .pyw=pyw_auto_file
>> >
>> > (This is why I commented that the file type name may differ between
>> > installs -- the assoc is
>> >        <.extension> = <file type>
>> > and ftype is
>> >        <file type> = <command line to execute>
>> > As long as the same <file type> is used in both commands the linkage
>> > works)
>> >
>> >        That SHOULD clear up the double-click/<right-click>Open/command 
>> line
>> > running of Python scripts. Setting up an Edit action (on WinXP) requires
>> > going through either the registry by hand, or opening a directory
>> > window,
>> >
>> > Tools/Folder Options
>> > File Types (tab)
>> >        scroll down to PY and PYW entries, select one
>> >        Details should show "Opens with: python" (or pythonw)
>> > [Advanced]
>> >        the default action should be "open" (bold). If there is no "edit"
>> > action, click [New...]
>> >
>> >        Give it Action name "edit" (or "edit with IDLE")
>> >        Application used to perform action: full path to the IDLE.BAT 
>> file
>> > (in quotes) followed by "%1" (with quotes) for the argument placeholder
>> > (the file to be edited).
>> >        Might need to [x] Use DDE; set "Application" to IDLE, set Topic 
>> to
>> > System
>> >
>> > {NOTE: I'm paraphrasing from the edit action on my system which uses
>> > "E:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe" "%1"}
>> > {I'm not sure if you could skip the BAT file and use
>> >        "path/to/python.exe" "path/to/IDLE.py" "%1"
>> > instead}
>> >
>> > --
>> >        Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
>> >        wlfr...@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
>>
>> Last I used it (I've been blessedly Windows free for some time now),
>> IDLE's editor was fine for editing Python (everyone has their own
>> favorite code editor), at least giving nice syntax highlighting and
>> correct (for Python) treatment of the tab key.  But it is not really
>> an IDE (except maybe for projects that are one file, or maybe one
>> folder).
>>
>> I'm sure that there are many fine Windows specific solutions.
>> (Someone mentioned NOTEPAD++.  I can't comment, but the list is pretty
>> good at that sort of judgement.)  But let me suggest that you learn to
>> use a tool that is available on multiple platforms.  (If you deploy a
>> site commercially, your costs, flexibility, and perhaps performance,
>> will likely be better on a Linux or BSD based VPS or shared host.)  My
>> personal favorite is emacs, but it can be easier to use vim remotely,
>> and it is more likely to be pre-installed.  Yes, there are native
>> Windows implementations of both, independent of running builds of *nix
>> configurations under cygwin.  While IDLE does run everywhere, it
>> requires access to the GUI, which can be annoying on a VPS.  Though
>> you can edit locally and push your changes to your VPS using your
>> revision control system, there are just some times that you have to
>> edit on your VPS via an SSH terminal connection.
>>
>> Beware, if you go with vim, that you will have to add plugins to make
>> it really Python friendly (emacs comes with a python mode).  At a
>> minimum, you should configure vim to always insert spaces when you hit
>> the TAB key.  Without further information, Python will interpret tab
>> characters as going to the next every 8 column tab stop, while many
>> modern editors have lost there way, and use tabs as though the stops
>> were every 4 characters.  Indentation is meaningful in Python, so it
>> causes mysterious problems if there are two lines that you think have
>> the same indentation, but python things are different (or vice versa)
>> because one uses tab characters and the other is all spaces.
>>
>> There are also some fine commercial, cross platform, offerings.  I'm
>> told that Wing IDE even has good Django template modes, and does have
>> the chops to run Django from within it.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Also, Django isn't really a click to run kind of application.  During
>> development it really should be run from a command prompt.
>>
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