I use Aptana... Ninja its good too
2013/5/31 Ezequiel Bertti <[email protected]> > +1 pycharm > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Chris Lawlor <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Joey, >> >> Would you be interested in sharing your virtualenvwrapper setup? I assume >> you're using some custom postactivate hooks, looks nice. >> >> Chris >> >> >> On Friday, 31 May 2013 14:23:23 UTC-4, JoeLinux wrote: >> >>> I've used both PyCharm and SublimeText extensively for months each at a >>> time, >>> and I swap back and forth every now and then just to see how the other >>> is doing. >>> >>> PyCharm: >>> >>> Pros vs Sublime: >>> >>> - Everything in one package (almost) >>> >>> - Debugging capabilities are excellent and built-in >>> >>> - >>> Virtualenv support and library inspection >>> >>> Sublime: >>> >>> Pros vs PyCharm: >>> >>> - Fast. Fast, fast, fast! Almost every >>> shortcut/function/correction/**refactoring/feature >>> happens faster in Sublime than PyCharm (sometimes by orders of magnitude) >>> >>> - Vintage (Sublime's Vim keymap) is WAY better than IdeaVIM (PyCharm's). >>> Vim support is crucial for me. >>> >>> - Fonts and colors and animations and basically anything your eyes can >>> look at is ten times more pleasing to the eyes than in PyCharm (Java font >>> rendering is laughably bad) >>> >>> >>> PyCharm cons: >>> >>> - Slow >>> >>> - If you quit/close/upgrade/kill while it's indexing, you'll screw it up >>> and have to select "Invalidate Caches" >>> >>> - Environment variables are not always handled correctly (this will >>> really frustrate you sometimes), and you'll have to define them yourself, >>> or toss them in your virtualenv's postactivate script >>> >>> - Costs $99, with a $59 annual renewal fee >>> >>> >>> Sublime cons: >>> >>> - You are responsible for your own environment (this means runserver, >>> debugging, etc) >>> >>> - Autocompletion does not always work the way you want it to (I've had >>> snippets, Emmet, and CodeIntel conflict with each other many times) >>> >>> - Costs $70 (though it's a one-time fee, compared to PyCharm... and you >>> don't HAVE to pay to use it, as long as you ignore the occasional prompt) >>> >>> >>> One note about Sublime: the first "con" is a big one, because most >>> people don't want to set up their development environment in pieces (I felt >>> the same way at first). However, over time I've learned to love that very >>> aspect, and I appreciate how everything works together better now. I am >>> more content now to leave those programs that are good at something to do >>> what they're good at, rather than let an IDE like PyCharm do it not-as-good >>> (Mercurial support is virtually unusable, for instance). Instead, I've >>> grabbed a few tips from around the web, come up with a few of my own, and >>> now when I drop to the command line and type "workon <project_name>", I'll >>> be greeted with a custom prompt, and a GNU Screen session with several open >>> (and labeled) windows indicating to me what is available in each one >>> (including a runserver, and a Python shell with my virtualenv/Django >>> environment loaded and every installed app/model automatically imported). >>> Looks something like this: >>> >>> >>> [image: Inline image 1] >>> >>> (I blurred a few things out because I'm working on a project that isn't >>> public yet) >>> >>> >>> The prompt shows me my user account and computer name, my current >>> directory, and my current branch (works on both Mercurial and Git, so I >>> don't have to do anything special depending on the scm tool I'm using). A >>> little lightning bolt will show up next to the branch name to indicate that >>> I have uncommitted changes, which is pretty cool. Also, it's multi-line, so >>> I have the entire width of the terminal to work on. >>> >>> The bottom bar is my "info bar". It has the name of the project on the >>> left (or initials or whatever), then a list of windows and their names, my >>> computer name, my system load, the date, and time. >>> >>> >>> So day-to-day, I now use SublimeText pretty much exclusively. Sometimes >>> (rarely, but it does happen), I open up PyCharm, but usually only if I >>> desperately need to debug Python variables in the middle of rendering a >>> Django template. It's pretty good for that. Otherwise, Sublime is amazing. >>> >>> >>> Especially amazing if you watch this video in its entirety and learn >>> about SublimeText thoroughly: http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-** >>> bgcJ6fQo <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-bgcJ6fQo> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> -- >>> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa >>> Python Developer >>> http://about.me/joelinux >>> On May 31, 2013 1:23 PM, "Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 for PyCharm. I know many here like Sublime Text also (though it's a >>>> super text editor, not an IDE). Neither are open source, but both work >>>> hard to earn the $$ you spend on them. >>>> >>>> _Nik >>>> >>>> On 5/31/2013 7:19 AM, Masklinn wrote: >>>> > On 2013-05-31, at 12:54 , tony gair wrote: >>>> >> Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am >>>> using it >>>> >> like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was >>>> >> actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows >>>> and >>>> >> macs when I went to my local python user group but enough >>>> digression!. >>>> >> I was wondering if anyone using debian wheezy can recommend a nice >>>> ide >>>> >> (hopefully opensource but if not then relatively inexpenisive) for >>>> django >>>> >> and python? >>>> > PyCharm works very well, though it's not open-source. Inexpensive is >>>> > more of a relative judgement, I've found it worth the price and >>>> > jetbrains regularly does sales on their products. 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