Thanks both for the suggestions! (and sorry for the delay, I was on a business trip). Looks like there's a lot of things to learn. I'll probably use a staging machine, like suggested. And now I'm between Eclipse, emacs and PyCharm. Time to work!
On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:48:26 PM UTC+2, Vernon D. Cole wrote: > > Yes, I like to have three levels, too. I call the middle one "staging". > You can tear it down and build it up again as many times as needed to get > it right. > > A ten-year-old PC will work fine for staging practice. Blow the dust out > (the dust affects cooling and leads to poor reliability), load Ubuntu, and > park it in an unused corner somewhere. My home-office Linux box is a Dell > desktop purchased at a University surplus sale for $20 six or seven years > ago. It runs Apache, MySQL, Asterisk, and the Python program that regulates > the lights and heat in our Iguana enclosure. The most expensive component > (other than the iguana) is a $50 UPS. Much easier than trying to make your > production machine do double duty. > > I use a structured settings module to switch back-and-forth between the > three levels. Look at the manage.py and the formhub/settings directory in > https://github.com/vernondcole/formhub for an example how to do that. > Also look at requirements.pip in that repository for an idea how to load > most of the prerequisites automatically. Documentation is in the wiki of > https://github.com/modilabs/formhub/wiki/_pages . (Formhub is a django > system used to receive generic survey data taken using android devices > offline.) > > > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Bill Freeman <ke1...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> I guess that it's what you're used to. I'm perfectly happy with emacs >> (less so with vi or vim, but still happy enough). I'm happy with emac's >> python mode, css mode, etc. There's even supposed to be help for Django >> templates now. I'm using the Espresso add-on for JavaScript. It's not >> everything that the IDEs offer, but I don't have to keep re-learning how to >> do things. vim has some pretty good syntax support too. I certainly >> wouldn't pay for something. And having installed eclipse, it makes emacs >> look light weight. >> >> Indeed, I, too, tend to develop and test on my laptop, when I'm happy, >> check in my chaanges (mercurial), push to the linode, ssh in, update to >> head, and touch the wsgi script file (IIRC). In a pinch I can directly >> edit on the linode, using vim through ssh, or emacs tramp mode over ssh, >> or, if you want to install your favorite X based editor on the linode, >> through a ssh -Y tunnel. >> >> Bill, the curmudgeon >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Jorge Arevalo >> <jorge....@geomati.co<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> Fine. I don't think my boss is going to pay for PyCharm license, so I'll >>> probably go for Eclipse now (I don't really like it too much, but if works, >>> it's ok for me) >>> >>> About virtualenv, is there any method to provide something like a script >>> to create a virtualenv, install the needed software and have a working >>> environment in a few commands? Something like "vagrantfile for virtualenv" >>> http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/vagrantfile/index.html >>> >>> Again, many thanks for your useful insights >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:29:14 PM UTC+2, Vernon D. Cole wrote: >>>> >>>> Answering the other half of your question: The choice of IDE is not >>>> nearly as important as its ease of integration with your dvcs. If you are >>>> already familiar with a good one, don't change. >>>> >>>> On my present project, my boss and I are both using PyCharm, and my >>>> other co-worker is using Eclipse, since he is more comfortable (and >>>> therefore, more productive) with it. Both IDE's have good integration with >>>> git (my least favourite dvcs, but the boss's choice) and our sharing is >>>> done using a group private repository on github. This is on Ubuntu Linux, >>>> it all works well. In the evening hours, I use PyCharm on Windows 7 to >>>> contribute to an open source project hosted on bitbucket using mercurial. >>>> Both projects end up being tested on the same Linode. >>>> >>>> Yes, use virtualenv. I also made the mistake of thinking of it as a >>>> virtual computer. It is not. It is only a method of separating Python >>>> library directories so that you can experiment with different >>>> configurations easily. It does not slow anything down, and actually makes >>>> installation of packages easier. Use virtualenvwrapper to make switching >>>> environments easy. PyCharm also supports virtual environments as well as >>>> django projects. It is commercial, and suffers from a few Java >>>> idiosyncrasies, but the boss paid for the license ;-) so I don't mind. >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Django users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to django-users...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to django...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Django users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/django-users/QhYZZF7mrIw/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> django-users...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to django...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. 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