Hi,

Lets try this again.

Your system could be nice if it really helps rendering speed.

But does it require changes in Django core itself, or is it completely
standalone package that doesn't require changing Django itself to operate?
If it requires changes in Django itself, it would be useful to describe
what changes are needed and why.

Note that you can even no build custom rendering engines since Django
supports those now (with default implementations for Django Templating
Language and Jinja2) your system actually might fall in this category.

Even code is bad you really need to start get some momentum for your
system. Otherwise it's really hard to provide any feedback for example
there might be some edgecases you might not have thought of.


On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 7:23 PM J. Pablo Martín Cobos <goi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, I reply beetween lines
>
> El vie., 18 ene. 2019 16:32, J. Pablo Martín Cobos <goi...@gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
>> Hi another time,
>>
>> I am tring to reply every people in this email:
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> I was not using django.template.loaders.cached.Loader, but the result are
>> very similar i.e:
>>
>> App Template Num templates rendered before unify Num templates rendered
>> after unify AVG Time render template before unify (ms) AVG Time render
>> template after unify (ms)
>> Django admin admin/index.html 3 1 80 70
>> Django constance admin/constance/change_list.html 7 1 330 180
>> Django su su/login.html 5 3 10 5
>>
>> Pavlos:
>>
>>    1. Yes, I wrote this email to contribute another time. Actually I am
>>    already Django contributor[1][2]
>>    2. I didn't share my code, because it is not a nice code. *For me it
>>    is a teoric question. I don't want anybody have a bad opinion of this
>>    proposal for the implementation*. But I am sharing [3] it without
>>    problems, but please I know this solution is incomplete for many reason.
>>    3. About your question: "I am not sure I understood anything so far.
>>    Are you just pre-rendering {% include %} tags, so the template engine
>>    doesn't have to do that in runtime?" Yes :-)
>>    4. About it: "I think what you did is addressed more neatly with the
>>    django.template.loaders.cached.Loader, as Josh Smeaton mentioned." and
>>    "Experimenting like this, even if you end up rediscovering something that
>>    exists" It is something different than django cache loader, of course I
>>    know django cache loader, I fixed a problem with django cached loader [4]
>>    five years ago :-). With django cache loader, we get django get a template
>>    quickly. But If your view finally render 3 templates, django cached loader
>>    will have to get 3 templates (from cache). With my proposal your view
>>    render only 1 template (This is not 100% true, 1 + templates about
>>    templatetags except extends and include)
>>
>> Jani:
>>
>> Currently you only need move the new template result to the old path of
>> the template. But it is only because I want. If you change this line [5]
>> for this other you don't need any change:
>>
>> destination_name = template.origin.name
>>
>>
>> 8 years ago I requested a feature related with templates
>>
>
> [6]
>
>
> , now I have a new request :-) 8 years ago I tried resolved my proposal,
>> now I only want propose something :-D
>>
>> I think in this change for Django :-)
>>
>>
>> REF's
>>
>> 1.
>> https://github.com/django/django/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Agoinnn+is%3Aclosed
>> 2.
>> https://code.djangoproject.com/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&reporter=~pmartin&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=component&col=version&desc=1&order=id
>> 3. https://gist.github.com/goinnn/8a42314fccdd13bcf4df256a277ec1f6
>> (tested in Django 1.8 - 1.11)
>> 4.
>> https://github.com/django/django/pull/1936/commits/e669bca5c8fe6d13ea745d338203cd9e7470ae6b
>> 5.
>> https://gist.github.com/goinnn/8a42314fccdd13bcf4df256a277ec1f6#file-unify_templates-py-L58
>> 6. https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/15053
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> El vie., 18 ene. 2019 a las 14:11, Jani Tiainen (<rede...@gmail.com>)
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Does this require changes to django internals or can it work as an
>>> external package?
>>>
>>> Also you should release it as a package so people can start using it,
>>> also preferably releasing it with BSD license like Django itself is.
>>> Otherwise there are very little chances that your solution would make to
>>> django it self.
>>>
>>> Improvements to rendering are always welcome, but they must come without
>>> too much maintenance burden.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:02 AM J. Pablo Martín Cobos <goi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> From one year ago, I am using an own command for Django templates that
>>>> unify them. With an example it is easy to see. If I am to render for
>>>> example a template call news.html like it:
>>>>
>>>> 1. news.html
>>>>
>>>>     {% extends "base.html" %}
>>>>
>>>>     {% block title %}
>>>>         {% include "inc.news.title.html" %}
>>>>     {% endblock %}
>>>>
>>>>     {% block content %}
>>>>         {% for news_item in news %}
>>>>             <h2>{{ news_item.title }}</h2>
>>>>             <p>{{ news_item.subtitle }}</p>
>>>>         {% endfor %}
>>>>     {% endblock %}
>>>>
>>>> 2. base.html
>>>>
>>>>     <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
>>>>     <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; lang="{{
>>>> LANGUAGE_CODE|default:"en-us" }}" {% if LANGUAGE_BIDI %}dir="rtl"{% endif
>>>> %}>
>>>>         <head>
>>>>             <title>{% block title %}{% endblock %}</title>
>>>>         </head>
>>>>         <body>
>>>>             {% block content %}{% endblock %}
>>>>         </body>
>>>>     </html>
>>>>
>>>> 3. inc.news.title.html
>>>>     News
>>>>
>>>> With this command I preproces every template of a settings variable and
>>>> I get something like this:
>>>>
>>>> news.unify.html
>>>>
>>>>     <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
>>>>     <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; lang="{{
>>>> LANGUAGE_CODE|default:"en-us" }}" {% if LANGUAGE_BIDI %}dir="rtl"{% endif
>>>> %}>
>>>>         <head>
>>>>             <title>News</title>
>>>>         </head>
>>>>         <body>
>>>>             {% for news_item in news %}
>>>>                 <h2>{{ news_item.title }}</h2>
>>>>                 <p>{{ news_item.subtitle }}</p>
>>>>             {% endfor %}
>>>>         </body>
>>>>     </html>
>>>>
>>>> So I have a two improves:
>>>>
>>>>    1. It is more fast. And in a real project a view can render easyly
>>>>    50 templates
>>>>    2. I use news.html to develop and news.unify.html to production. So
>>>>    I don't lose legilibility.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you think about "unify templates feature"? Do you know if
>>>> exists a similar public project in github/gitlab/bitbucket etc?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Pablo Martín Cobos
>>>> Computer engineer
>>>> Python/Django developer
>>>> 652 53 37 36
>>>> goi...@gmail.com
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