If you are stuck with PHP I recommend Symfony (http://www.symfony-
project.org/). It's the most Django-like PHP framework I've seen.

On Nov 21, 10:24 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok! argh... i don't want to use php anymore... :p is there at least a
> django like framework for php someone can recommend?
>
> ...and i came across this now:http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2407
> why did someone work on this if django + CGI is quite unusable anyway?
> has anyone tried this and got some performance insights?
>
> On Nov 21, 1:27 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 11/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > but what is incredibly slow? :) a second until everything is started
> > > up each time? my apps probably would be quite small and there wouldn't
> > > be many apps.
>
> > Thepointis it's not just your apps: Django itself has to be loaded
> > fresh into memory, all the imports have to be dealt with, modules have
> > to be initialized, the per-process application and model caches have
> > to be populated... there's a *ton* of behind-the-scenes work involved
> > in getting a server process up and running with Django, and under CGI
> > you have to do that for every single request you serve.
>
> > If CGI is your only option, you will not be able to achieve acceptable
> > performance for a production site, and you should not be using Django,
> > which is designed for environments where mechanisms exist to persist
> > the code in memory over the life of a server process.
>
> > --
> > "Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of 
> > correct."
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