Re: [D] Venues

[tim kilkenny]

I also agree it is a problem. I think it is sad but true that in the end the problem is left on the promoter's lap. For my events as well as friends we do the same thing clean up the venue to the point of it being cleaner then the way we got it!! Also picking up outside the venue and surrounding areas that flyers might have made it to. If we all know that the "kids" themselves are not going to clean up after themselves then it is the responsibility of the people throwing the party. I mean I was one of those kids back in the day and I don't remember helping them clean up homebase/2nd jackson/ or the surronding streets. It is us promotors that need to keep the respect of the venue owners after all it is us that deals with them before and after the party has happened. To me it is worth cleaning up.....whatever we have to do to keep the parties happening. Much Love.

Tim

From: alison riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [D] Venues
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:04:08 -0800 (PST)

I agree that this is a huge problem...
but what can we do about it?
i tend to clean up messes when its my party, or if
it's a friends event.
one time tracer and i picked up every flyer that was
outside of the sweets ballroom after his event
dreamwave cause we didn't want the street to be a mess
and have the city mad at us. most of the flyers were
yarrows tresure flyers. i was going to return them to
his front lawn cause i know where he lives... but i
didn't want him to get mad at me, he's kind of scarey.

we used to have this same problem in high school.
students disrespected the school property with trash
and graffiti. i would walk around during lunch and
make the freshman clean it up. but what can i do in
the scene? make the candy kids pick up all the water
bottles? we could make money if we recycled them,
right!

i would like to help, but i'm not sure how.

Alison }:{

--- JoMiLyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I totally agree ... it begins with ourselves ... I
> don't know that it's age or drugs which sway people
> one way or the other ... maybe it's just an
> individual's outlook/personality/upbringing.
> xoxo ... Jade
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You know this is my
> observation.... We go out, we party, we trash the
> place we're in, we write on the eh walls, we throw
> every damn thing we touch on the ground, God forbid
> we make the walk to the garbage cans, we piss
> everywhere int eh bathroom like we were never potty
> trained, we smoke where we're not supposed to, we
> leave our butts all over the ground, we burn shit,
> we leave hundreds of flyers everywhere, then when
> we're done we go home and wonder why they keep
> shutting our venues down... Hmmm... Thats seriously
> a bummer.... Now I know there are some of us who
> respect our venue, and are thankful for the last
> couple shitholes we're left with to use as venues,
> but for the most part people dont give a shit...
> Take the smoking in city hall and getting the party
> shut down early for instance... Take people writing
> all over the Metreon and Where the Wild things
> are... when we set this kind of example for
> ourselves of course people are going to discontinue
> negotiations with us... would you invite someone
> over again after they threw their water bottle int
> eh your living room, burnt cigarette holes in your
> carpet, pissed in your sink and then left? I think
> not....
>       Get a clue, gain respect, and then see what
> opportunities arise....
>
>             That is all,
>                   ~Layce*

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