by all means, you have every right to throw some flame to the fire with your contradicting opinion. "opposition is true friendship" to quote a great poet and representative of another war-torn time, William. Blake.

war is war and as the history of this world has so elaborately displayed, society will inevitably find itself in situations of conflict that unfortunatley lead itself toward destroying the very thing that society is meant to preserve, our right to live.

the issue that really frightens me with the impending war on iraq is not necessarily that it is a war and that many innnocent iraquis and americans will both lose their lives in a fight lead by two obstinate leaders. no one should deserve to die that way and i give total respect to the men and women who have elected to defend our country and our freedom in the armed forces. however, what i am more concerned about when i protest this impending war is that i am not really certain that we, a nation are really weighing the weight of this issue with much forward thinking or historical perspective.

of course the aftermath of sept. 11 is still on our shoulders, but revenge with armed conflict has hardly been the civilized way we should be resolving our grief. we are not dealing with the people next door, we are dealing with peoples with cultures unlike ours.

concerning militant islam: these are people that fundamentally believe that they have been given a calling from allah to declare holy war on the ameican people. a group of people has declared holy war upon us. that is serious. holy war is not about money or power or land (although the victor may gain those spoils) it is a war concerning fundamental belief about what it means to be a living human being on this earth. how many americans consider that when they reflect upon the travesty of the twin towers? there must be something fundamentally wrong about us if people are driven toward hatred. why hasn't this been a topic of discussion? simply because we like how we are and we aren't willing to fix our problems.

concerning iraq: the structure of a government such as iraq is nothing like the united states. what one man in power may say does not necessarily reflect the people of the nation. people don't get to discuss and criticize the state of things as freely as you and i are now doing. iraqu is structured in a feudal hierarchy that can not withstand democratic representation. it is a tyrannical country, yes, sadamm should be removed from power yes, but does that justify a war that will ultimately kill many of the innocent people we hate sadamm so much for tyranizing over? if we have evidence that sadamn is really guilty of war crimes and diplomatic deceit why don't we put him on trial? and can we really hate a country so much just because it goes against our ingrained belief in a grammatical system that requires that Q is always followed by a U? sorry, just had to see if you were still awake there.

now, what i am most concerned with is not even relevant to the iraqi people, but the UN. the UN has not given us approval to declare war, because the majority of europe disaproves. you might say, why does the UN have the authority to boss us around? did you ever hear about the League of Nations? did you see what happened when it fell apart? WW II was far more devastating that WW I. we must respect the authority of the UN. we can't forget that there is an impending conflict in Asia and if the UN is not respected by our nation, all sorts of treaties might simply be lost in the wind of our presidents loud mouth reactionary leadership. and we have to consider that we just may lose our role as THE world power in this century. in the past ten years Europe has revolutionized iteself by unifying into a new sort of economic union unknown of in our history. they can have the leverage of a large nation such as our without the blemish of internal economic weakness we have with our states. just look at our current state budget and consider the impact it has on the nation. is italy going to be all that impacted if denmark has a budget defecit? no, but the union will thrive in ways that the ailing United States will not.

that's my take,
peace to all who will receive,
anthony

 




The night was empty of all terror for them, they had inside their circle an imaginary fire, and needed nothing but their own unpenetrated sense of community.
>From: "the world's only living heart donor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [D] nrr: well, how about the flip side of this 'war' ?
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:32:31 -0600
>
>i know there are a bunch of you who are going to the protest tomorrow.
>it's been talked about on the list.
>
>i figured, well, if someone is going to announce that, why not have a
>flipside of the opinion ?
>
>the way i see it, i support the war. i think a lot of people are so quick
>to forget what happened almost a year and a half ago. remember the sudden
>breath that was stolen the moment you saw those towers collapse. or the
>sheer grief of the nation. the burnt scorch mark on the field of one plane
>where heroic americans decided to fight back.
>
>that's the thing. they fought back.
>
>it's a well-known fact that a good part of the money trail that went to
>fund the horrors of 9/11 can be traced back to iraq. and that day, when all
>the other countries expressed their wishes of condolence, what did hussein
>say ? 'i support what they did, but we had no part in it.'
>
>lies.
>
>you might argue, well, there's not enough evidence that they've been
>building nukes. there is now. what about the chemical warheads they found ?
>
>yes, i do question bush's motives for this war. yes, i agree that he seems
>too aggressive, or has a grudge (well, wouldn't you, if someone tried to
>kill your father ?).
>
>but that is not the main motive now. iraq has purposely broken their
>promise not to make more warheads, have violated the sanctions put on their
>own people by smuggling in goods (check out those palaces). iraq has
>praised the al qaeda for taking out the towers and the attack of the
>pentagon.
>
>each and every one of us knew the exact cost of what 9/11 did. we can't lie
>to ourselves when it happened. we wanted retaliation. righteous vengeance.
>our president said he would not stop until each and every person who was
>responsible for this was eradicated. we all agreed at the time.
>
>all of us would love a time of peace and no war. but, sometimes, it is a
>necessity.
>
>so go to the protest. it is your right in this country to do so. it is your
>freedom. but don't forget what cost that freedom has. and don't forget the
>luxury of climbing onto a bus and not fearing of a bomb going off. and
>don't forget those guys who are risking their lives to keep our country
>like this. and most of all, don't forget all those people who died on
>september 11.
>
>ohyeah, before i get my arse roasted, i'll bring up a quote by voltaire ?
>what was it ? i can disagree with you and vice versa, but i will fight to
>the death for our right to disagree.
>
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