yes. irregardless of who or what is running this country, 911 could not have been prevented. it could not have been prevented because our government has already gotten us into enough trouble funding these rouge nations and training them.

however, just because we couldn't prevent it doesn't mean that we have to go ahead and murder innocent people in retribution. we are only going to perpetutate the whole affair. 8000 afghanis have already been killed in the war on terroism. doesn't that already make up for 2 1/2 times the 3000 dead in the wtc?

the peaceful solution, as has been suggested by the UN is to step up inspections. why don't we friggin fly spy planes over their airspace? we're gonna fly planes anyways when we go to drop bombs aren't we? check this out: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/international/middleeast/31BLIX.html?ex=1045033071&ei=1&en=330fb515d3802edc

you ask a good question vinny, what should we do? i can't say that i can hold the answers. all i am trying to say is that we should think before we use our might, and it hasn't appeared as though we have. we have only acted out of misunderstanding, seeking revenge in a never-ending game of one-up-manship.

why do so many rogue nations hate US and not any of the other major world powers? maybe because we are the one nation that feels morally obligated to be big brother to the rest of the earth. of course this country has plenty of good things going for it, it wouldn't be the power that it is if it didn't. but i think that it is a bit presumptuous to maintain our manifest destiny across every sea and every peoples. maybe it is our very nature to meddle in other country's affairs that has created pathways for people like sadaam to rise to power. it is a horrible catch 22 and i don't want to say it but if we don't begin changing our ways, it is going to take more than another national emergency to change the minds and thoughts of our nation. 

i don't think that gore (whom i didn't vote for either) would have violated the Anti Ballistic Missiles treaty as Bush did in his first year of office. we have so many freaking nuclear arms and i can't blame the rest of the world being a little afraid and maybe even angry at us for stockpiling all the power.




The night was empty of all terror for them, they had inside their circle an imaginary fire, and needed nothing but their own unpenetrated sense of community.
>From: "Jello Shooter ..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: D List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [D] Re: Re: Re: [NRR] Re: NO WAR 411 (What do we want? PEACE!When do we want it? NOW!)
>Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:27:56 -0700
>
> >the danger we, as a nation, as a people face is that we are so absorbed in what
>we CAN do with our freedoms that we do not do what we >SHOULD do.
>
>Which is what?
>
>I still would like to know what the peaceful solution to dealing with Saddam
>and other rogue leaders/nations is ... One that would actually work (besides
>not getting involved - I think as a superpower we are obligated to get
>involved in events around the world. That�s not to say that Bush may be
>going after Saddam for personal reasons. But as far as I�m concerned that�s
>not the only reason we�re going after saddam. It just happens that Bush is
>the one who has to deal with this - would we be arguing about this if
>Clinton or Gore was in this same position? I don�t think a clear argument
>can be made that they would _not_ be in this situation( after what happened
>on 9/11) because regardless of who was running this country 9/11 would not
>have been prevented.
>
>
>Vinny


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