sure connected you off-list. again my thinking here is this is just related to what will appear as downsampling. good luck!
From: Olga Gavrylyako <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:47 AM To: Paul Midgen <[email protected]> Cc: Franck Martin <[email protected]>, Sam Patrick <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hotmail Email Rejection for DMARC senders > Hi Paul, > Maybe you have some incentives, or maybe can refer to somebody in > Hotmail. From reports, they send to Gmail I see that they fail to > authenticate 100% of all our mail (google.com, youtube.com, > plus.google.com). > Also reported volumes look too low. > Wandering if it is just a reporting bug... > > Olga > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Paul Midgen <[email protected]> wrote: >> when i worked on this stuff at hotmail, standard procedure was to do a >> staged rollout over a longish period of time so that we could measure the >> impact to production servers and so on. what this looks like from the >> outside is dmarc being applied using a gradually increasing sample rate. >> messages sampled out look like p=none, the rest whatever your policy is. >> >> hotmail has has private-channel dmarc for long enough time that the >> none/quarantine/reject semantics are fairly well understood. >> >> i don't know if any of my former colleagues are on this list, so i've >> forwarded the thread on to them to see if they have more to add. i don't >> know what's changed procedurally since i left. >> >> -p >> >> From: Franck Martin <[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:08 AM >> To: Sam Patrick <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hotmail Email Rejection for DMARC senders >> >> This is just guess work. I think hotmail is still ramping up/implementing, >> so it may likely be they apply lower forms of the policy till they are >> confident there is no serious bugs. >> >> From: Sam Patrick <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: Sam Patrick <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:08 PM >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [dmarc-discuss] Hotmail Email Rejection for DMARC senders >> >> We have recently setup DMARC in our DNS and all the spam/ phishing emails >> (fake emails using our brand name) are getting blocked in Gmail, Yahoo, AOL >> etc but, these emails are still landing in the SPAM folder of Hotmail. >> >> Please let me know if Hotmail is following DMARC 'reject' rules and policies >> while accepting emails. >> >> Regards, >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Sam Patrick >> Domain Admin >> >> [email protected] >> >> 123Greetings.com, Inc. >> 1674 Broadway, Suite 403 >> New York, NY 10019 >> >> http://www.123greetings.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> _______________________________________________ dmarc-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss >> NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well >> terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dmarc-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss >> >> NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well >> terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) >> >
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