Larry,

> Except, as I and others have discovered in the past few days, DMARC does 
> NOT make email "so much more secure,” as phishers and spammers have 
> already found workarounds to continue their assault.

It can't by itself, no. It needs to be used together with some means to knock 
out the look-alike domains. Such as an address-book filter, or a 
reputation-based filter. But that puts us back into the arguments about the 
value of anything that relies on user behavior, including the need to patrol a 
Spam folder for the inevitable false-positives.

> So all DMARC has accomplished is to inconvenience large, distributed 
> communities of legitimate mail forwarders such as mailing lists ...

And the email users that rely on them.

> ... with no long term benefit.

I'm not so pessimistic as to think that there will be no long term benefit. I 
just can't imagine any way to effectively obtain that benefit without involving 
the receiving MUA and its users.

-- Shal

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