On May 28, 2014, at 12:37 PM, John Levine <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Its not clear to me that gmail.com needs to tell another service to trust
>> the OAR from a given third party, the choice to trust that service could
>> easily be up to the receiving service.
> 
> Good point.  That's why I keep saying that one or a few shared
> DMARC-bypass whitelists would work a lot better than anything
> per-sender.  The set of senders where it makes sense to skip DMARC
> checks for Yahoo or AOL or Gmail addresses are likely to be the same.

Doug,

I read through the spec, and it is clear a lot of work went into it.  I think I 
echo Brandon and John's above opinions.

>From my PoV, there exists an immense pile of work to get through before the 
>draft under discussion becomes a solution.  Aside from support, tooling, 
>getting senders to deploy accurately and getting receivers to perform 
>additional checks.. what is missing is the justification for the additional 
>work.

DMARC is a tradeoff between keeping things as simple as possible (as 
unnecessary complexity acts as a giant barrier to adoption), building on 
existing technologies (as new code/libraries in the world of email means 
tacking on additional calendar years), and solving a problem that hurts enough 
to warrant doing anything at all.

I don't believe TPA-Label hits the mark between "solving a big hurt" and 
"simple".  IOW, it's too complicated for the amount of pain it would resolve.  
Just my opinion, take care,
=- Tim

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