On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Brandon Long <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> There seem to be rather a lot, since it's a feature on most magazine
>> and newspaper web sites.  Since you mentioned the WSJ, they use the
>> user's own address as the From: address (I just checked.)  Some do the
>> hack you mentioned, but a lot don't.  My college class has a mailing
>> list, and I sometimes send articles to it from my WSJ account, which
>> would stop working if they didn't let me put my own address on the
>> From: line.
>>
>> Do you have any numbers on how much if any of a spam or phish problem
>> these things are?  They've never been on my radar, I think because they
>> do a lot of rate limiting and inbound filtering.  Some also limit it
>> to subscribers.
>>
>> Also please keep in mind uses like the school teacher I mentioned
>> earlier today.  Again, useful, not abusive, and I think there are
>> likely to be a lot of little setups like his that are now mysteriously
>> failing.
>>
>
> I'm sure most of the big ones are well protected with abuse limits, but
> I'm sure there are plenty of other ones which are not.  I'm sure each one
> that is abused is a drop in the bucket of the overall abuse.
>
> That being said, with DMARC, I see no way forward for them.  Even if the
> WSJ and other large publishers are whitelisted by one of the schemes we're
> talking about, the forms like your teacher's are never going to get
> whitelisted.  At best, a provider may provide a mechanism to whitelist
> things for a specific user, but I haven't imagined anything like that which
> would be particularly user friendly either.
>

I'd love to see some usage statistics from one or more of them.  Lately it
seems to me a lot more of such link sharing happens over social media
(where this is all moot) rather than over email.

-MSK
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