On 05/30/2014 04:30 AM, eugene hayhoe wrote:
>
>  "Most people with a personal mail account aren't on any mailing
>  lists."
>
>  
>  I AM on several, and the ONLY reason I am here is to try and figure
>  out why so many people like myself have been COMPLETELY
>  'disrespected' with these 'policies.' 
>
> ...
>
>  not to mention the pain of
> being forced to jump from email provider to email provider
>  every few days 're-subscribing' to lists which I had
>  previously been on for years.

I don't think this is a situation anybody is happy to see, no matter how
they feel about DMARC in general or the policies certain mailbox
providers have adopted in particular.

I assume we're all here because we value email as a service and want to
see it continue to be viable. Differences seem to come in perception of
how much that viability is under threat from the truly amazing number of
ways email is currently subject to fraud and abuse, and what progress
has/hasn't been made (or can/can't be made) in areas like email
authentication.

> While I might be in support of working on the spam/fraud issue, my
>  ''Yahoo spam'' has actually INCREASED at least 5 fold since this
>  'improvement' began,

As a general rule, not everybody is impacted equally, or at the same
time, by abusive activity (spam, phishing, etc). If your address is on
their list(s) you get it, and if it isn't you may not notice anything
happening while others are severely impacted. And next day/week/month
that situation may flip.

At least consider the possibility that - perhaps - you are now seeing,
at whichever mailbox, the impact of the wave of abuse Yahoo was
originally trying to stop.

No, I don't have the numbers or patterns of behavior. And unfortunately
I don't really expect a public company to be able to share anything too
detailed, given the way lawsuits get tossed around.

--Steve.

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