Hector Santos <[email protected]> writes:

> A database is still needed of which domains will have an 
> outbound mail stream with two signatures.  Some how the list domains 
> will still need to register with the Yahoos and tell the Yahoos, 
> "Please send us two signatures authorizing out list domain."    I 
> would like to call this a "registration" problem because thats seems 
> to be the area of disagreement as a real problem.

I have to agree; if this is the case, to me, it is a
show-stopper.  The genius of the DKIM and SPF and DMARC
approaches is that they are DNS-based, and thus completely
decentralized.  The idea that lists would have to register with
the e-mail providers of all of their contributors, or that I
as a (very small!) e-mail provider would have to figure out
what is and isn't a list, doesn't scale.

I have not yet taken the time to fully understand the "weak and
strong signatures" idea, but if I may be forgiven for commenting
anyway: could the above problem be solved by having "original"
signers always supply various forms of signature (without
needing to figure out if the receiver address is a list), and
having "intermediate" signers (such as mailing lists) add more
signatures as described in the draft?  A message that arrives
with only the "original" signatures would be checked against
the strong one, and a message that arrives with "additional"
signatures would be checked as per the draft.

Of course, if the idea of specifically setting up a third-party
trust is crucial to the proposal, then my suggestion is useless,
and the "registration problem" is not solvable.


Anne.
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Ms. Anne Bennett, Senior Sysadmin, ENCS, Concordia University, Montreal H3G 1M8
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