----- Original Message -----

> From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email protected]>
> To: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:58:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Responses to comments on
> draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-08.txt

> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Kurt Andersen (b) < [email protected] >
> wrote:

> > > Section 4.2:
> > 
> 

> > > I'm generally unsure about this section. It will eventually (sooner than
> > > later) refer to a number of expired documents. It might be more helpful
> > > to
> > > the reader to just summarize the idea behind each approach in a paragraph
> > > rather than forcing the reader to chase down specific expired I-Ds.
> > 
> 

> > I don't see a good way to avoid referring to (eventually) expired I-Ds.
> > That's the best way to catalog the ideas, but I did take your suggestions
> > on
> > rephrasing the intent of some of them into some new wording.
> 

> I don't think you actually need to cite I-Ds just to enumerate the general
> approaches that have been proposed. Perhaps use this for the bullet list:

> o Third party authorization schemes provide ways to extend identifier
> alignment under control of the domain owner.

> o A way to canonicalize messages that transit mailing lists so that their
> alterations can be isolated from the original signed content.

> o A way to record message transformations applied at each hop so they can be
> reversed and the original signed content recovered.

> o "Conditional" DKIM signatures, whereby the author domain indicates its
> signature is only good if accompanied by a signature from an expected
> downstream relay.

> o Mechanisms to extend Authentication-Results [RFC7601] to multiple hops,
> creating a provable chain of custody as well as a view to message
> authentication results at each handling step.

While the I-D will likely expires they will not be removed from the website, so 
references will still work, so I don't see as that bad that they are properly 
referenced in this document. I however agree we should provide a quick summary 
for people that do not need the details. 
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