On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Roland Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> I'd suggest not. AS[1] permits a receiver (or other assessor) to determine
> with some confidence that the putative signer made such an assertion about
> the putative originator, it provides no information about the involvement
> of the putative originator except to the extent that the assessor
> additionally trusts the assertions of the putative signer. Decisions to
> trust are necessarily outside the specification. This argument applies
> equivalently to AS[0] independent origination scenarios and to AS[>0]
> forwarding scenarios.
>

What would an i=0 ARC Set tell you that the i=1 set does not?

As I understand it, an i=0 set would be the author asserting "I validated
my own mail, and it was good."  How would one consume such an assertion in
a meaningful way?


> > Yes, AS[1] testifies to the Authenticated-Results of receiving the
>> message
>> > from the originator.
>>
>> That only proves the first receiver was involved.  A final receiver may
>> trust
>> its results or not.
>>
>
> What is the first receiver reporting if not the authentication claims made
> by the originator?
>
>
> They could equally be reporting fraudulent claims in order to defeat email
> security systems at (a) downstream receiver(s).
>

...meaning nodes 0 (originator) and 1 are in collusion?  Sure, that's
possible, but how would requiring an i=0 thwart such an arrangement?

-MSK
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