On 10/31/2017 10:57 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:
In a couple of days I will ask Alexey to cancel the dmarc session in
Singapore, unless someone very quickly shouts, “Noooooooo, don’t do
that! We need to meet and talk about <this>.”
Barry, as chair
Once again, my expectations were off about what the key DKIM cogs
would do to complete this long time project in regards to DKIM policy
and even trust layers.
I've been waiting for over a decade for the DKIM Policy layer to be
established. Spent much dollars, engineering time, product
development, sweat and tears working on ADSP, a then proposed
standard, only to be "replaced" with non-proposed standard "Super
ADSP" DMARC that did not solve the complaints about ADSP, but instead
carried the problem on, and pushed it into the market place like the
problem never existed.
So are we going to complete this thing or what? I have been waiting
and willing to "follow" the leaders to finally complete this thing.
Is ARC resolving these 3rd party issues? It doesn't look that way, or
at least I don't see it, other than ramming the overhead down our
throats.
You should at least have a meeting to decide what you are going to do
with DMARC. It should be turned into a Proposed Standard. It needs
3rd party policy considerations. It needs more policy options,
including describing how ARC is expected to work by domain owners who
expect to use it.
I really don't quite understand the engineering difficulty in
completing a 3rd party solution we all know will work for "cheaper and
better" than any ARC plan.
DMARC is very limiting. I am proposing:
1) Rewrite DMARC as a IETF proposed standard,
2) Incorporate 3rd party authorization concepts like ATPS into DMARC
as extension tags,
3) Incorporate ARC somehow into Policy that tells receivers what to
expect, i.e. # of hops, etc.
I would like to think these are all just DMARC options but it needs to
be IETF sanctioned in order to get support which will finally give
people a confident chancee to explore these options in earnest.
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Sincerely
Hector Santos
http://www.santronics.com
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HLS
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