On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Seth Blank <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>> My review of -14 noted problems with the abstract.  While there have been
>> some changes, the Abstract remains too... abstract.  While the current text
>> is better it really does not provide simple, direct statements about the
>> problem(s) ARC is addressing nor the solution or benefit that it enables.
>>
>> Text like this needs to be written for people who are not trained in
>> theoretical computer science and are not already deeply enmeshed in this
>> work.
>>
>
> The abstract's been rewritten numerous times, including with the help of
> the Chairs and AD. I do like your suggestion, but would appreciate hearing
> if other members of the working group concur with your guidance.
>

Dave, do you have sample text to suggest?


>
>> Note also that while typical discussion of ARC refers to it as
>> establishing a chain of custody, no language like that is in the Abstract.
>> I think that's a serious omission.
>>
>
> This is a fair point, but I think discussing custody in the abstract has
> led us down less clear paths previously. Raising these issues in a General
> Concepts section seems to have clarified and simplified the document.
>

I haven't ever felt comfortable with the references to terminology like
"chain of custody".  In particular, that term typically references
something that is handled by one party at a time and critically insulated
against tampering, but (a) it's not clear to me that the chain is complete
(non-participants do technically handle the thing of interest) and (b) the
custody of what, exactly?

If we want to keep that language or general concept, I think we need to be
clear what the payload we're discussing actually is.  It's not simply "the
body" or "the message"; there's more to it than that.  Is it "everything
the latest ARC-Seal covers", for example?

-MSK
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