In article <0127a137400d466095373373ec887...@bayviewphysicians.com> you write:
>This example is a reminder that every message is a take-it-or-leave-it 
>proposition.   You can accept
>the message or reject it, based on the message characteristics, but you will 
>probably be unable to
>cannot change the sender's behavior.   In this situation, you may not like 
>having two signatures
>from IETF, but you cannot change IETF.    As a result, any spam filter needs 
>to be very flexible
>about exceptions.   Too many spam filters do not have adequate exception 
>mechanisms.

You missed an important point -- for any From: address that has a
quarantine or reject DMARC policy, the IETF lists rewrite the address
into the dmarc.ietf.org domain using a kludge I suggested to them.

You shouldn't be seeing any mail from IETF lists failing dmarc with a
dmarc policy. You'll see plenty that fails with p=none (this one
probably) but any spam filter that rejects on DMARC failure with
p=none is pretty badly broken.

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