On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:55 AM John Levine <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <CAMSGcLDKRMbJ_30jZdKE_6hkKaktwBxU6_E=E=
> [email protected]>,
> Joseph Brennan  <[email protected]> wrote:
> >"Domain administrators must not apply dmarc authentication to domains
> >from which end users send mail that may be re-sent via lists or
> >automatic forwarding."  -- done. Then dmarc will be simple and
> >reliable, and bank statements and similar messages are protected as
> >intended. Building in a standard workaround significantly weakens the
> >whole concept, doesn't it?
>
> Unfortunately, we have ample evidence that domain operators will
> ignore that advice.
>
> According to someone who was in the room when Yahoo flipped the
> switch, the person in charge said words to the effect that I know this
> will screw up everyone's mailing lists and I don't care.
>
>
The irony is, the result being to diminish the effectiveness of dmarc for
everybody.


Joseph Brennan
Lead, Email and Systems Applications
Columbia University Information Technology
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