On Thu 10/Dec/2020 05:28:55 +0100 Seth Blank wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:19 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:29 PM Brandon Long wrote:

In today's much more privacy conscious world, should we have RUF reports
in DMARC at all?

[...]
Seems to me that's still a useful thing to have, at least sometimes.  We
might say something like: Include support for this, but don't have it on by
default.  Or even if it's an extension to DMARC and not part of the base
protocol, it might be really helpful in some situations.


Can we be explicit about that? I mean to suggest to develop but not to enable. Furthermore, I'd recommend to develop options to enable failure reports on a per-domain basis. (We could also mention that admins may contact the email in the <report_metadata> section of troublesome aggregate reports to ask for failure reports to be enabled for their domain for the time necessary to solve the problem at hand.)


As an individual, I feel extremely strongly that failure reports should go
away in their entirety.


Could we at least limit them to a single, must-be-aligned recipient?


For this ticket in particular-- the simplified failure report with only
from: and to: addresses speaks to Jesse's exact use case, without any of
the other PII that tends to get failure reports in privacy trouble (like
body content and attachments). This approach to Jesse's use case should get
a fair discussion, separate from whether we want failure reports at all.


I would suggest to redact the local parts of To:, Cc: and similar fields (X-Original-To:, Received: for), possibly leaving only the From: intact. Delivered-To: should be removed. The rest of the header can be sent safely, methinks.


Best
Ale
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