On 12/22/20 8:50 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
On Tue 22/Dec/2020 17:16:05 +0100 Michael Thomas wrote:
On 12/22/20 1:22 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

NEW

   Failure reports provide detailed information about the failure of a single    message or a group of similar messages failing for the same reason.  They    are meant to aid extreme cases where a domain owner is unable to detect why    failures reported in aggregate form did occur.  As an extension of other    kinds of failure notifications, these reports can contain either the content    of a failed message or just its header.  The latter characteristic entails    severe privacy concerns.  For that reason, and because it turned out not to
   be important, failure reporting is usually disabled.

I'm not understanding what this "severe privacy concerns" are. It looks like a glorified bounce message to me. My messages pass through the originating domain in the clear, but it only becomes a "severe privacy concern" when it is reflected back? How does that work?


Unlike bounces, you're delivering PII info to a third party.

In Europe, if you setup failure reporting that way, having a third-party handling/ processing meta-data or even mail content requires you to inform your customers about that, and ask permission.  If third-party is outside EU, since privacy shield got canceled last July, there is not even a legal basis anymore that would allow you to do so at all.  In all cases, you would be held responsible for your customers data unless third-party is signing contracts with you to accept EU privacy laws.  EU has severe penalty for companies which breaking GDPR.


Sorry, having to ask for permission because of laws does not constitute a "severe privacy concern". That is completely outside of the scope of IETF and we should be pandering to it.

Mike

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