On Fri, 5 Aug 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

On Fri 05/Aug/2022 04:44:21 +0200 John Levine wrote:
DMARC uses available information to produce a result of "Authenticated" >>>> or
"Not Authenticated".   Sometimes, the message can be reliably categorized
as "Authenticated" or "Not Authenticated" without reference to the
specifics of a domain owner policy. ...

But DMARC has never said whether messages are "Authenticated".  It says >> 
whether they
are aligned, based on the authentication results from DKIM and SPF.  That's not 
the
same thing, and the distinction is deliberate.  It's quite possible for a 
message to
be authenticated by DKIM or SPF, but not aligned.

The difference w.r.t SPF is that DMARC records have default values. The only mandatory element of a record is dmarc-version. This makes the "implicit" DMARC record quite obvious.

While DMARC effectively has a default of p=none and no reports, I don't see how that is relevant. DMARC is about alignment, not authentication.

However, it might be worth to note that, among non-DMARC software, there are verifiers which issue a warning when the authenticated identifier is not aligned. Call it dmarcese?

Once again, I see no benefit in describing things that are not DMARC.

R's,
John

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