On October 19, 2022 12:44:16 PM UTC, Dotzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:18 PM Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On October 18, 2022 10:16:44 PM UTC, Neil Anuskiewicz <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Douglas Foster <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> In many cases, an evaluator can determine a DMARC PASS result without
>> evaluating every available identifier.
>> >> If a message has SPF PASS with acceptable alignment, the evaluator has
>> no need to evaluate any DKIM signatures to know that the message produces
>> DMARC PASS.
>> >I think it’s critical to DMARC that receivers do things like evaluate and
>> report on DKIM whether or not SPF passes and is alignment. Without this, it
>> would make it harder for senders to notice and remediate gaps in their
>> authentication. Since there’s not a downside (that I know of), I’d say this
>> should be a MUST if at all possible.
>>
>>
>> What is the interoperability problem that happens if evaluators don't do
>> that?
>>
>> Scott K
>>
>
>Scott, What is the interoperability problem is evaluators didn't provide
>reports at all? Reporting isn't a "must" for interoperability but it
>certainly helps improve outcomes instead of senders flying blind.

I read the email as suggesting a MUST for reporting both SPF and DKIM results 
if you report results at all, which would, I think lead to exactly the 
situation you're concerned about.  I'm skeptical of any kind of MUST around 
reporting since that's generally reserved for things that impact 
interoperability.  I do agree it should be encouraged.

Mostly, at the moment, I'm trying to understand the proposed change and the 
rationale.

Scott K

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