Doug, mystified or not, the fact is that no one else is supporting
your suggestion.  I don't see that we have any chance at getting
consensus for this, and I see the conversation as over.  It's really
important that we wrap up dead discussions and move on: we cannot
spend our time and effort endlessly discussing things where the rough
consensus is clear.

> So that's why I floated this stupid idea,

That sort of comment is unnecessary and inappropriate.

Barry, as chair

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