Replying to just a few of these:

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 10:58 AM Alessandro Vesely <[email protected]> wrote:

> > In Section 2.1, under "High-Level Goals", there's a bullet that reads
> thus:
> >
> > "Minimize implementation complexity for both senders and receivers, as
> well
> > as the impact on handling and delivery of legitimate messages."
> >
> > Given the collision with indirect mail flows, which I don't think this
> > document actually improves relative to RFC 7489, do we feel like we met
> > this goal, at least the part after the comma?  Should we revise this so
> we
> > don't draw fire for a failure here?
>
> I think we reached consensus on the fact that DMARC is not yet ready to be
> deployed out of the box (Sections 5.4 and 7.4).  It's not an effective
> improvement, but at least states the problem well.
>

OK, but are we fine saying an explicit goal of this work was X, and this
document does not meet that goal?


> > In Section 4.8, I think there's an ABNF ambiguity in that "dmarc-record"
> > ends with *WSP, but so does the optional "dmarc-sep" right before it.
>
> Does it have to be unambiguous?
>

I think it's supposed to be, but I can't recall how hard of a rule that is.


> > Section 5.1.1, regarding SPF, says:
> >
> > "... SHOULD be constructed to ensure that only those authorized sources
> can
> > get an SPF pass verdict."
> >
> > Why is this only SHOULD when it's MUST for DKIM (Section 5.1.2)?
>
> Because SPF has many more possibilities than DKIM.  Several operators
> allow /24
> or even larger blocks of IPs, not all of which are actually legitimate
> MTAs.
>

We need to say so.  Without context, this reader at least was left
wondering.

> Section 7.2 strikes me as something that isn't likely a novel discussion,
> > so is there any other DNS document we can think of where we can reference
> > the topic?
>
> Should we say that TTL SHOULD be at least _one day_, save for
> experimenting
> temporary values?  Changing records during the day will likely confuse
> aggregate report generators...
>

Rather than making up a guideline and attempting to justify it, I was
thinking that some other thing in the IETF's past must have tackled this
subject already, and we can just reference that discussion.


> > Section 10.8 also talks about "periodically checking the DMARC Policy
> > Records, if any, of PSDs" but doesn't talk about how one might achieve
> > knowledge of where they are. Is this just caching of the ones you've
> > discovered?
>
> Aren't there ICANN policies that (dis)allow publishing DMARC records?
>

Maybe, maybe not; do we have to complicate this work with that discussion?

-MSK
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