On Fri 25/Oct/2024 18:41:54 +0200 John Levine wrote:
It appears that Tero Kivinen  <[email protected]> said:
Wanted indirect mail flows do not happen without the user concent.

If I get alumni address from university, I usually know about it, or at least recognize that forwarding domain when someone sends me email to that address.

If I join to the mailing list, I know that I have done that, so I will recognize that forwarding domain.

If I am part of the role address (like board members of the non profit organization), I know about that and will recognize that forwarding domain.

I have several users who want me to forward their mail to Gmail
addresses. I add ARC headers, I do not break DKIM signatures, and
nonetheless Gmail still rejects a lot of it.  Google says they look
at ARC, but apparently only so much, since they still reject a lot
of the mail I try to forward.


Me too. I guess they look at ARC but don't trust it. The ones they bounce are from the same senders, e.g. mailchimp. There must be something in their messages that either Google's receiver or mine alter in order to break DKIM.


Anything that depends on individual user setup just doesn't scale.


Well, IMAP mailboxes do scale, don't they?


Best
Ale
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