On 11/25/24 21:25, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On November 25, 2024 9:14:17 PM UTC, "Daniel K." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Investigating this, the conversation above seem to indicate that SPF
>> MUST NOT be treated as in alignment if MAIL FROM is NULL, however
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I may be confused here, because from reading the background information
>> I'm thinking that the intention is that a NULL envelope sender is meant
>> to lead to an SPF fail result (no identifier alignment).
>>
>> If that's the case, it does not seem to be what's written in dmarcbis,
>> nor does it seem possible to rely on SPF's notion of MAIL FROM identity
>> for this purpose, as that explicitly includes the postmaster@HELO
>> fallback mechanism.
>>
>> Where did I go wrong?
> 
> Look at RFC 7208, Section 2.4 again:
> 
> When the reverse-path is null, this document defines the "MAIL FROM" identity 
> to be the mailbox composed of the local-part "postmaster" and the "HELO" 
> identity (which might or might not have been checked separately before).

Thanks, that was exactly my understanding. I just wanted to make sure
that nothing was missed wrt. the desire to disallow NULL envelope
senders, which I did not think was actually possible, due to the
fallback mechanism.


Daniel K.

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