The field isn’t meant to apply to any document, but to the tag that is
registered in that entry.  It’s the state of that tag: in current use, in
experimental use, or historic (no longer in use).

This sort of thing has been in a number of other registries, has been
clearly understood, and as far as I know, hasn’t been (and hasn’t needed to
be) formally defined.

We could write text, but it would say something like, “ ‘current’ means the
tag is in current use,” and such, and would be of no practical value.

Barry


On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:17 PM Roman Danyliw <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Todd!
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> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 9:03 PM Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> DISCUSS:
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> ** Section 9.3. and 9.4.  Status column
>
> -- Section 9.3 “Each registration includes the tag name; the specification
> that
> defines it; a brief description; and its status, which is one of "current",
> "experimental", or "historic".”
>
> -- Section 9.4 “In addition to a reference to a permanent specification,
> each
> registration    includes the format name, a brief description, and its
> status,
> which must be one of "current", "experimental", or "historic".”
>
> The status column was defined in RFC7489 and already in the existing IANA
> registries.  However, there doesn't appear to be adequate guidance on
> setting
> and using it.  Specifically:
>
> (1) What are the criteria used to set a particular code point to “current”,
> “experimental” or “historical” status?  There is no guidance for the
> designated
> expert.
>
> It can’t be the status of a given RFC since the registration procedure is
> “specification required” allowing for non-RFC documents.  Section 9.3
> appears
> to be updating the registry to amend existing code points to historic
> status
> (e.g., pct, rf, ri) so the WG must have some intuition that would benefit
> from
> being document here.
>
> (2) What does experimental or historic signal to implementers?  What do
> they do
> with this information?
>
>
>
> Roman,
>
>
>
> As co-editor, let me first thank you for taking the time to review and
> comment.
>
>
>
> As we work to produce a new draft in response to your and other reviews,
> we find ourselves struggling to come up with definitions of these terms. We
> believe them to be in common, widespread use in the context they're used
> here, but we can't off the tops of our heads think of RFCs that have
> defined them.
>
>
>
> Can you please point us to an example RFC or two that has definitions for
> the criteria used for these terms?
>
>
> [Roman] Are “experimental”, “historic”, etc meant to imply the
> “status”/track of the RFC.  If so, Section 4 or 5 of RFC2026 defines those
> formally.
>
>
>
> [Roman] Note my comment above that “Specification Required” would allow
> for documents which aren’t RFC.  As such, those status/track designations
> would not be meaningful.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Roman
>
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