On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 10:26 AM Alessandro Vesely <ves...@tana.it> wrote:

> On Wed 11/Jun/2025 13:56:50 +0200 John R Levine wrote:
> >
> > I really do not understand what point you are making here.  People find
> > aggregate reports useful enough to build businesses around them.  But
> failure
> > reports are useless.
>
>
> I can hardly believe it.  Unless you're getting a reward for receiving
> useless messages, why on earth do you have this record?
>
> "v=DMARC1; p=none; rua=mailto:dmar...@abuse.net; ruf=mailto:
> dmar...@abuse.net; psd=n;"
>
> If ruf= indicates something, I looked at the records of DNSWL subscribers:
>
> /var/lib/rbldns/domain.list: 23488 records
> 16945 DMARC records (72.00%)
> 13154 rua           (56.00%)
>   8622 ruf           (36.00%)
>
>
> That seems to indicate that failure reports are less popular than
> aggregate ones, but a number of domains want them.
>
> Best
> Ale
> --


Ale, can you show the top 10 or 20 domains (and number of domains pointing
to them) receiving the RUF reports? I have a feeling it skews  towards
intermediaries such as Agari, Valimail and Dmarcian.

TIA

Michael Hammer
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