On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 4:03 AM Douglas Foster <
dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is not a momentum problem, it is a process problem.
>
> There are no open objections to the document language, but there are
> objections to the concept.   Those who don't find the concept useful to
> themselves want to remove it as an option for others.   As long as those
> who want no document are given a veto over those who do want a document, no
> document can be produced and the clock runs out as they wish.
>

I take it you were neither in the Madrid meeting nor have you listened to
the recording of it?  Because I'm 99% sure that's not at all where we
landed.

-MSK
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