Hi Jouni, All,

Sorry if this has been captured before..

Shouldn't there be a very basic requirement that should first outline why
MIP6 and derivatives could not be deployed in scenarios suitable for DMM? I
reckon this assumes a clear description of what DMM is exists.

Thanks.

-Rajeev



On 5/17/12 4:56 PM, "jouni korhonen" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Few comments/questions here:
> 
> On May 7, 2012, at 8:58 PM, h chan wrote:
> 
>> REQ-2: Transparency to Upper Layers
>> The DMM solutions SHALL enable transparency above the IP layer. Such
>> transparency is needed for the application flows that cannot cope with a
>> change of IP address and when mobile hosts or entire mobile networks change
>> their point of attachment to the Internet, but SHOULD NOT be taken as the
>> default behavior.
> 
> "SHALL enable" but "SHOULD NOT be taken as the default behavior" seem to
> conflict. So, what is really meant here? Does this mean something like
> "MUST implement, SHOULD use" type of solution? Or can one leave transparency
> completely away if the applications/hosts just don't care whether IP changes
> or not?
> 
>> 
>> REQ-2M (Motivation for REQ-2)
>> The goal of this requirement is to
>> enable more efficient use of network resources and more efficient routing by
>> not invoking mobility support when there is no such need.
> 
> Does this still mean the mobility support must be implement
> even if it is not used?
> 
>>  
>> RELEVANT problem:
>> PS5: Wasting resources to support mobile nodes not needing mobility support
>> IP mobility support is not always required. For example, some applications do
>> not need a stable IP address during handover, i.e. IP session continuity.
>> Sometimes, the entire application session runs while the terminal does not
>> change the point of attachment. In these situations that do not require IP
>> mobility support, network resources are wasted when mobility context is set
>> up. Network resources are also wasted when the via routes are set up for many
>> MNs that do not require IP mobility support.
>>  
>> OTHER related problem
>> O-PS1: Mobility signaling overhead with peer-to-peer communication
>> While mobility management enables a mobile host to be reachable, the hosts
>> may then communicate directly so that the mobility support is no longer
>> needed. Taking the need of mobility support as the default behavior will
>> waste network resources.
>> O-PS2: Lack of user-centricity
>> Centralized deployment compared with distributed mobility management may be
>> less capable to support user-centricity. Example in the lack of
>> user-centricity is to provide mobility support to all mobile nodes by default
>> regardless of whether the user needs it or not.
> 
> I have issues to parse O-PS2.. the motivation makes sense though but
> the title "lack of user-centricity" is somewhat confusing.. what does
> forced/always-on mobility support has to do with user centricity?
> 
> - Jouni
> 
> 
>>  
>> (The above has been drafted with contributions, inputs and discussions from
>> various people. Additional contributions and comments are most welcome.)
>>  
>> H Anthony Chan
>> 
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