Hi Charlie,

okay, yes I think a MUST is the right thing to do here and I probably already enough.

I'll clear my discuss now.

Mirja


On 16.02.2017 01:08, Charlie Perkins wrote:
Hello Mirja,

My previous answer was intended to mean that I would change to MUST.

Would you be willing to suggest some text about the non-leakage? I
thought that the point of strengthening to MUST was to ensure that
sensitive identifier information was not leaked.  If there is something
more to be said, I'll be happy to say it.

Regards,
Charlie P.



On 2/15/2017 4:46 AM, Mirja Kühlewind wrote:
Hi Charlie,

can you please also answer the question below on SHOULD vs. MUST? Thanks!

Also, does it maybe make sense to then add something in the security
section that information should/must not be leaked to other networks?

Thanks!
Mirja


On 13.02.2017 22:06, Charlie Perkins wrote:
Hello Mirja and Suresh,

I am happy to make the proposed changes as agreed below.

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 2/11/2017 1:00 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote:
Hi Suresh,

sounds all good! I’m happy to quickly resolve my discuss if the
authors agree!

Mirja


Am 11.02.2017 um 05:05 schrieb Suresh Krishnan
<[email protected]>:

HI Mirja,

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DISCUSS:
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I would realy like to see the following changes in the security
considerations section:
OLD
"If used in the MNID extension as defined in this
  document, the packet including the MNID extension should be
encrypted
  so that personal information or trackable identifiers would not be
  inadvertently disclosed to passive observers."
NEW
"If used in the MNID extension as defined in this
  document, the packet including the MNID extension SHOULD be
encrypted
  so that personal information or trackable identifiers would not be
  inadvertently disclosed to passive observers.”
Is this just for changing the "should" to upper case? I think that
makes sense.

Or even better make it a MUST? Is there a reason for only having a
SHOULD?
Authors, any specific reason for this to be a SHOULD?

as well as the following change:
OLD
"Moreover, MNIDs containing sensitive identifiers might only be used
  for signaling during initial network entry. "
NEW
"Moreover, MNIDs containing sensitive identifiers MUST only be used
  for signaling during initial network entry and MUST NOT be
leaked to
  other networks.”
The statement in OLD: is just a statement of fact that in some
networks use temporary identifiers for reattachment and they use
long term (and hence sensitive) identifiers only at initial attach.
I don’t think it makes sense to change this to 2119 language.

Thanks
Suresh






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