Good post,
but the hardest part is knowing what you have to do to get the sounds you want.

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On 12 Mar 2002 at 11:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ok time to give away more of my secrets (not that any of this stuff is really 
> SECRET, but whatever).  Still, though, this will have you making fresh and 
> new basses as opposed to constantly ripping off other people's ideas.  Stop 
> trying to reinvent Coca Cola and go make your own damn soda...
> 
> First, understand the principles:
> 
> 
> 1.  there is no such thing as a "sound", except for a pure sine wave.  Sounds 
> are really just COMBINATIONS OF OTHER SOUNDS (called harmonics).  Actually 
> theres more to the nature of sound but this definition will suffice for our 
> purposes. A "Phat" sound is just a sound with ALOT of sounds in it. 
> 
> 2. a bass sound is just ANY LOW SOUND.  For good dance music you want to make 
> sure that at least part of that sound (read above) includes frequencies in 
> the 80hz- 100 hz range, called the "sweet spot". You can go a litttle lower 
> than that (maybe to about 60) , but then your dealing with SUBbass, which is 
> difficult to hear on home systems, and, in clubs, willl be more felt than 
> heard. Fine if that's what you want , just know that 80 is the area for a 
> good, firm, "felt AND heard" effect.
> 
> 3.  All distortion and resonant filtering tweaking do is create mid/upper 
> harmonics that are added to the sound.  (again, see, number 1).  So in fact, 
> the sounds that you think of as "bass noises" in your favorite DnB tracks are 
> actually sounds with alot of mid-range and high-range sounds in them, just 
> with bass frequencies (80 hz or so) included. 
> 
> Now that you grasp the fundamentals, time to experiment.  Here's the basic 
> formula:
> 
> 1. First, grab your bass frequency- a sine wave at or around 80 hz. You can 
> use a saw or other wave but understand that these wave types are just sine 
> waves with upper harmonics already included.  (When you low-pass filter a saw 
> wave all your doing is lowering the volume on the upper harmonics built into 
> it, bringing it closer to a sine wave).
> 
> 2.  Layer some upper and or midrange harmonics. Let your imagination run 
> wild.  Make sure that the sounds you add don't overpower the bass frequency, 
> sound "natural" with it (not awkward), and that there is some sort of 
> envelope or filter sweep to keep things interesting, (even a short quick 
> one).  These new harmonics can come from ANYWHERE- your main weapons are your 
> filter, volume envelope, and effects:
> 
> the original bass sound distorted and filtered (yawn)
> a horn sample chorused and resonant filtered
> a conga or other drum with the attack cut off- resonant filtered and enveloped
> your little sister pitched low, flanged, enveloped.
> a piano layered with a square wave run through a ring modulator and resonance
> 2 or 3 of these layered and filtered again
> a wrench dropped in the toilet then left in the oven for a few days 
> 
> Remember: the more sounds you layer, the phatter the sound.  Not all the 
> sounds need be the same volume level.  If you use your original bass 
> frequency to fuck around with (filter it, etc), make sure you add another one 
> later- or your bass will end up having no, well, bass.  Youll have to 
> experiment to get a sound that's interesting, new, and "convincing" (ie the 
> upper harmonics don't sound glued on to the side), but once you do get a good 
> one, it's YOUR sound and you are moved one step closer to true DnB producers 
> Valhalla. When you do make up that sick, fucked up, "must have" bass sound 
> make sure you guard it's formula with your life so that loser producers like 
> us can spend their hours running around trying to duplicate it.    Happy 
> sound designing.
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> PS.  And to think noone responded to my offer to do preproduction for them.  
> Forget all y'all.... Guess Im stuck making a track a year with my fuckin 
> dayjob...  ;)
> 
> oh yeah and big up to rob the original poster- he was dead on but he only 
> scratched the surface...
> 
> 

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