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Hi
I
think the problem is that the only people who know about presets, loops, samples
and the rest of it are the reasonably small minority of train spotters who now
produce (myself included). Its the evolution of being a music lover to obsessive
to creator...
Before
i got into this i would judge a tune by its ability to make the hairs stand up
on the back of my neck in a club or a car (usually Photek, Source Direct, PFM
and Dillinja) - which at the end of the day is why we buy music - i for one
would love to be able to combine that innocence with being able to write tunes
that do it for me - thats why i started buying equipment - to have my own tunes
- not to worry if an A&R man I never met is going to diss my 6 week
creation. If its good enough you will be rewarded, or you might not, but writing
tunes for cash is not right (its damn tempting tho)...
I
think i forget that sometimes too, but the tunes should be written for
yourself,
Laters
Dan
is it really the golden rule to have to mash
and filter sounds beyond recognition ? the compilation CDs i bought last week
are like a homage to the Roland JV1080 pre-sets. Now thats lazy !!!! yet these
guys are signed and released by Beechwood music .
I have to wonder that if your able to write a
real kick ass tune, then who in this money orientated music industry will wipe
the dollar signs from their eyes and say "oh no .....hang on , cant release
that, I recognise the loops".
Paul
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:59
PM
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Getting Kick
Ass Samples (more unnecessary cap italizing)
Hi
One thing,
How come peeps are still releasing tunes on
Reinforced using all the classic breaks?
Granted they f*ck around with them, but they
are all there in their original form on the sample CDs in question.
Basically it doesn't matter where the stuff comes from, its how you make
it all sound in the mix and if the tune kicks ass your laughing and for
a large part, who you might know in the world of music can make or break
you....
I
think this demonstrates clearly the double standards here in
the industry (hey, its actually called an industry, ha, its
now a business with all the trappings and necessity of networking) - its
alright to rinse out a pitched down amen/firefight e.g if
you're certain well known old skoolers (how many times can you base a
tune on a combination of dub sirens, Something Out There and the Raven by Ed
Rush) and call it old skool cos people buy the stuff and they're
established, but god forbid any new producer who is unsigned sending a demo
to a label that sounds like an old tune - do you think they get a chance?
Nope - sorry mate, too derivative, try a bit harder to make your own
style...and if its too different - sorry, doesnt fit the label...its a
fickle world unless you know a few people...good on people like Klute and
Commercial Suicide (even the label name is encouraging) for pushing the
boundaries (I don't know if Big Boss is a pseudonym but if he's new he
rocks).
Ah, feel better for that..;-)
Cheers
Dan
In a message dated 4/4/02 2:43:42 AM
Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm confused. It's okay to use a sample CD as long
as it say "Hip Hop"
instead of "Drum n Bass" on the
cover?
yeah, i know it seems like Im
contradicting myself, but my point is that if your going to go to sample
cds for breaks, using hip hop ones is the best technique- what you end up
with is breaks that sound like "new" old-school breaks. Better
advice is to save your money and go online to download hip hop breaks-
much better than hitting a drum n bass site and ending up with the breaks
everyone else does (classics aside). Im not against sample cds on
the whole, just uncreative and blind use of them. If your using a
Reinforced sample cd to make Reinforced-style music, well then your not
contributing much to the art form now, are you? Your just dead
weight, or a hobbyist at best.. ;)
What kind of irks me
about the whole issue tho is that the guys at Reinforced KNOW this.
What do you think those guys would ever do if they recieved a demo
with one of their sounds taken straight off the CD? They'd fuckin
laugh at the naivety and lack of creativity displayed, that's what.
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