Hi Its a bit of both and their real worth in terms of production can only be judged by the final results - no-one will care how it was made if it turns out to be a cracking tune.
I mean you could assemble a track piece by piece over several weeks and not play much or any of the sections in actual real time and it could be amazing (see most of Photeks earlier beats like on UFO or The Seven Samurai Remix for example - painstaking detail) or you could play beautiful riffs and melodies over subtler beats if your a good keys player (like Intense from Good Looking records playing live or stuff like Omni Trio, PFM etc). Or you can combine the two and be a real f*kin genius...like Klute, Accidental Heroes, Total Science, MISTICAL and 4Hero etc ;-) Its just what it sounds like at the end that matters and so go get your samples from anywhere you like...Peeps dissed the original hiphop artists when they sampled old records saying it wasn't right and now 20yrs has passed the purists say you can only sample from vinyl not CD or elsewhere - I'm sure in 2020 there will be another format that is taboo for the snobs but at the end of the day people should just get over it and make good music. Cheers Dan PS - Don't get intimidated by impatience by others.. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Lawler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 April 2002 19:44 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: The Golden Rule (yawn)... >>is it really the golden rule to have to mash and filter sounds beyond >>recognition ? the compilation CDs i bought last week are like a homage >>to the Roland JV1080 pre-sets. Now thats lazy !!!! yet these guys are >>signed and released by Beechwood music . >Here he goes again, drawing attention to himself by capitilizing the >subject line. I need therapy. Its just that this point needs to be made >to the newbies who always want simple, easy answers to things: I cant work out if this comment is aimed at me or not . I mean I wrote the JV1080 comment, BUT ! its only the 3rd email i ever sent to this list, so where does the "here he goes again" etc fit in to things .I`m a newbie to the list and the genre, and I`m merely questioning topics on the list to gain a better understanding of what it takes to produce D&B . >THE GOLDEN RULE IS TO PUT WORK INTO YOUR TRACK. I dont believe that sampling a loop from some obscure record , putting it through a few filters and then triggering it at different pitches in time with a drum loop can be seen as drastically harder work than using sample CDs (not only D&B CDs mind you) Both of these ways of working could justify your phrase of "I did nothing but sample this". Now if you are one of the (what seems to be from the CDs Ive heard) few people that actually compose and perform elements of your songs, then thats different . Taking a loop from a sample CD or taking a loop from somebody eles track is paramount to same thing, but with a bit more fiddling . This isn`t composing as I see it , its assembling .But maybe thats what D&B is all about ? I dont know, as i said , this is a new world to me . Paul --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER: The Information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or ommision taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. This E-mail and any attachments are believed to be free from viruses but it is your responsibility to carry out all necessary virus checks and Vertase Ltd. accepts no liability in connection therewith. --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
