hmmm.... 

I must have missed the first email...but since you mention DC...you should 
really send all your promo spam to the DC DnB list as opposed to this one. 

PBXorcist 

The Winternett Group writes: 

> Hey Chuck, 
> 
> Well to those that know me, I was never big on diplomacy and caution. In 
> my opinion, no one who succeeds ever is. I try to always tell it like it 
> is. If people fear or hate on the success of others in DC, I can't help 
> that. I honestly believe that success on my part does not mean a loss on 
> theirs. But its hard to convince people of that. 
> 
> Some of the people I had encountered resistance from are the same people 
> who did not show up to the networking night that I humbly asked people to 
> come to earlier. In it I talked with a lot of people about this as wellas 
> many of my future plans. I even said on this list that I was planning a 
> full night of D&B. The most support I had recieved for my plans was from 
> people who were'nt even affiliated with this list and people who did not 
> currently work in DC D&B crews. Don't get me wrong, Cap City said they 
> would be happy to put out my flyers, the Tangent folks are cool, many 
> people from the list like you & I talk as freinds, John Tab from the Buzz 
> crew was the one who told me that I should join this list; But the US D&B 
> movement goes beyond the crews that are already establised and the people 
> on this list. 
> 
> I remember that when I first wanted to do the networking night how others 
> said they had never heard of me. I already had produced 5 D&B Hip-Hop & 
> House music CDs, I had been playing D&B at Heaven & Hell for over a year 
> and advertizing my events for at least 5 months before that on the D&B 
> list here. Noone from the list had stopped into Heaven&Hell from the list 
> back then. Maybe this all is due to a little close mindedness, possibly my 
> bad marketing, or even just everyone being too busy. But its hard to get 
> people's attention these days. But still, I had been in operation before I 
> even knew about other D&B crews in DC, independently, I am used to 
> functioning this way. 
> 
> I realize that anyone will always face a dominant force when you do this 
> sort of thing. My approach is not to compete, I know & respect many people 
> from the Buzz staff, I have met the Tangent folks and love their focus, I 
> know many in the Hip-Hop and House venues I used to play in and support. I 
> also have a lot of respect for everyon in the DC music community, that why 
> I always market my work and projects humbly. Knowing and having repsect 
> for these events and people does not however, supress my desire to 
> produce, play out live, and to create a community of my own, and if they 
> blend with other communities or even involve others, tehn thats even 
> better. 
> 
> My old ads for Heaven & Hell used to even say that I would have rather 
> been at Buzz on many big D&B nights. But though I have respect for them, I 
> have heavy aspirations for D&B in the US too. In order for D&B to grow we 
> need to make more open doors.  My only sales tactic is to let my product 
> [the music] sell itself. There are tons of House music events going on in 
> the city on every given night, that does not mean that each of them do not 
> have their own crowd and success. Though House has become sort of a 
> mainstream music form, the house underground survives and flourishes on 
> the money made from the above ground work. 
> 
> I would like to see Drum&Bass get the better part of this kind of success 
> so that there will be more choices for D&B events during the week, this 
> kind of selection will also boost production of D&B in the US, bringing 
> well earned money to US producers and the D&B community. 
> 
> Many clubs have started events in House Music and some of them have failed 
> moved and succeeded through the years, but thats all the tricks and trades 
> of the business, as it will be with D&B. I have no problems with putting 
> together a D&B night on any night during the week because of this. When 
> you do your own things you cannot help having people like and dislike your 
> actions, you can only explain why you did what you did and feel 
> comfortable as long as you were humble. Thats why I tried to reach out to 
> those already working in DC, to make friends, not enemies. Even though I 
> would be grateful and welcoming for an invitation to play at other events 
> in DC, I am not going to wait to be invited to them. I'm gonna start my 
> own thang. 
> 
> I am usually the type to create my own informal and casual scene. I work 
> well with others when they are receptive to me. I always try to stay 
> humble unless someone criticizes my intentions or actions. I hope this 
> gives you a better picture of my personality and love for the 
> music.................Respect......>Winterman 
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