This one may seem obvious, but the "tighten-up" aka samurai ride might be a
good place to start...

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From: "Jim Purbrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: [dnb-prod] Hats and Rides


> Hi All,
>
> Sorry to be a stranger. I've just quit a nightmare job and so now
hopefully
> have some time to make some music again. I'm currently updating a few old
>
> tracks for interested parties and I'm struggling with the hats and rides,
so
> thought I'd ask for advice and opinions. Which route do you go with hats?
> Programmed or looped? I can never seem to get programmed hats to sound as
> good as a layered loop and my closest attempts have needed so many hat
> samples that I've ended up needed a loop's worth of variations even when I
> program them. Rides are even more difficult as lots of samples are needed
> again, but the length of the sample means that cutting them out of breaks
is
> difficult. I'm currently experimenting with a programmed drum part that
uses
> the rides from an Amen, but the ride hits on their own in the Amen are so
> short it only sounds good when the ride is playing 16ths and the ride
sound
> is so characteristic that the whole composite beat ends up sounding like
an
> Amen in the end. I've tried ride samples from sample CDs, but although you
> get lots of variations, they inevitably end up sounding too nice. What I
> need are some good vintage breaks with just the ride playing so I can get
> lots of samples, the vintage sound and long decays. Any suggestions? Jazz
> records would seem like the obvious choice.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim (Sigma Delta Blues)
>
> http://www.sigmadeltablues.com
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