Here's some breaks programming tips I got off another list... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 June 2002 09:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [projectone] FW: [dnb-prod] RE: Rant: ReCycle
Warren wrote: Ok. How much of the loop or how many loops do you sample? Cos I cant seem to get it right? Erm, not sure how far back you'll want me to go, so I'll start fromt he beginning. I start with a nice kick/snare combo. Mostly I just sample a kick and sample a snare and put my basic tech step together in a drum machine. The next phase is finding either a kick rythm section or a hi-hat rythm section, or a snare kick combo. This is the roll part. Remember that 3rd slice and 7th slice (coz you've cut your loop up into eight equal parts, numbering and saving them as you do) are always snares. 1st slice and 6th slice are always kicks, if you're working with a tech step. The rest is there for resequencing. Put 4th where 2nd should, and just re-arrenge to your hearts content. Make different patterns. Do this until it sounds right. Add hi-hat rolls from other breaks. Cymbal rolls, whatever. Just work it until it sounds right and you have two or three loops and a roll loop. Then when you put it together you've got loop1, loop2, loop3, roll loop. Voila: 64 note drum loop that would sound tired and repetitive if you've done the work right. There is software to help you do this, but I can't remember where I found it. Fruity slicer, if it's registered will also help. Last night we used Acid & Sound Forge. All you do is open your loop in Acid, one bar is enough. Then double click the loop itself and it should go to the Acid slicer on the bottom of the screen. Select and the first eighth of the tune (it is nicely cut into little even blocks, all you have to do it highlight the section you want), right click on the selected area and use the "send to sound forge" thingie. This'll open SF. However, it open the entire break, but has the section you selected in Acid highlighted. Drag this highlighted area to another window (SF supports drag and drop functionality) and sace as Slice 1.wav. Now go back to Acid and carry on until you've got eight even slices. NOW go resequence in Fruity, or Reason, or whatever, remebering that every two notes on a 16 note bar loop represents one slice. One and 6 are kicks, three and seven are snares and the rest is there for twisting up. What you don't want, drop. Repeat this process for every loop you think you'll need, making sure the bpm is the same. And that, as they say, is that. erm....I think. Korrupt - Firstly I hate drum machines,because they sound so mechanical and their lack human error that gives the sampled breaks their groove and swing, even if you use a humanise preset. True. I've been playing with reasons drum machine mostly and it does a little dodgy. But I tried DJP's analogue drum kit setup and it sounds much much better, with the added bonus of being able to tweak each drum - Now I take 3-4 break loops, divide each into eight equal parts and re-shuffle them into loops, dropping sounds as I go along. Ok. How much of the loop or how many loops do you sample? Cos I cant seem to get it right? Then stick 'em all top of each other in Acid (the best time compresison tool on the planet) - Acid the sequencing app? You then sample that into fruity right? Question to the guys reason do you use the rex player or the sampler for your beats? ===================< projectone >=================== To unsubscribe, mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with "unsubscribe projectone" in the body of your message ==================================================== ===================< projectone >=================== To unsubscribe, mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with "unsubscribe projectone" in the body of your message ==================================================== Engen Petroleum Limited, disclaims liability for any loss, damage or expense however caused, arising from the sending, receipt, or use of this e-mail and on any reliance placed upon the information provided through this service and does not guarantee the completeness or accuracy of the information. Please visit http://www.engen.co.za/content/disclaimer/default.htm to view the full disclaimer. --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
