Although I agree with what's been said about Dillinja (although I would say
� of harder DnB has been influenced by him), this may be a reason why his
style hasn't progressed as much as others. If producing music is emulation,
who's he got to emulate but himself? And it's hard to repeatedly push back
those barriers

 <Time to put head on chopping block>

I was listening to a 4 year old V recordings CD (Planet V) this morning on
the way to work and the only artist still making tunes now, which are very
similar to ones made 4 years ago is Dillinja. I'm not saying his style is
identical (given the amount of new softsynths produced over the last 4
years, it's never going stay the same) but I'm just comparing how much the
likes of Peshay, Ed Rush & Optical & Die (and DnB in general) have changed.



PS - Have the DnB arena site going down got anything to do with DOA
problems?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Kenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:42 PM
Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Imitation, emulation and creativity


> if you stop trying out different ideas you'll stagnate.
> in educational psychology there is well studied theoriey of  hierarchal
> levels of learning.  The bottom levels are simply simply about learning
> about what we already know and understanding that information.  The higher
> levels get into copying and then synthesizing new ideas around what
> the student learns.
>
> I have always viwed the process of producing music as an emulation
> and feel I am only in the last few years getting to the levels of
> persoanl expression.  However I still follow what other s are doing and
try
> out their ideas if I dont quite understand them or am intrigued by them...
> it also doesnt mean I'll release the tune... but then trends are what they
> are - and to be in the game sometimes you have to follow trends or adapt
> trends to get your foot in the door.
>
> MK2
>
>
> on 6/18/03 9:21 AM, Scott Burke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I don't remember where I heard this, or who said it, but I think it was
on
> > the A&E Biography of the Impressionists :) Anyway, the basic sentiment
is
> > this; To create truly original work, you must first be able to copy the
> > masters.. once you are at that point, then you can begin to create
something
> > of your own..
> >
> > The merits and subtleties of this are debatable, and I certainly
wouldn't
> > say you can't be creative without copying, but it raises some
interesting
> > thoughts..
> >
> > I'm sure it would have more weight if I could remember who said it ;)
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Dillinja has been responsible for prob 3/4 of the d+b styles we hear
today
> > and will go on making trends, but he's only the man because he doesn't
try
> > to sound like anyone else. Its hard to not want to sound like the people
we
> > respect (i'm guilty of this too and it helps you learn stuff), but you
got
> > to make your own mark.
> >
> > Dan
>
>
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