Maybe check the lowest frequency of the commercial tune, then cut yours off around the same
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:28 AM To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Production - hear my bass Following on from this, I am normally fairly happy with my tunes once they are mixed down and i get all the comp/mastering and eq techniques, but I am finding it hard to fine tune my basslines to a level where they doesn't distort speakers, but are actually audible on most systems (like most d+b tunes). I find it sounds ok on my Absolute Two monitors, but in the car/lounge it is just a very low level distortion or smooth but too low, whereas a commercial D+B track sounds pretty much the same on both.... I use a Novation Supernova 2 and the low end is awesome, but I can't seem to get the bass to fit, its either all or nothing. I've been layering 2 basslines together to try to get the upper to come out, but the sub bass tends to need taming by about 10db on the compressor and still gets out of hand or its inaudible... I've tried tuning the patch and filtering etc, but just as it sounds ok its then not quite right on other systems... Any tips for a smooth healthy b-line (not angry reece mids, just a quality Total Science/Digital/Paradox type thing) Ta Dan -----Original Message----- From: Woodhead Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 July 2003 09:47 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Production I'm pretty much repeating what Andy and Josh are saying, as in always use the best quality samples, and take some mid out if it's sounding too muddy. I've been using some of the waves eq's (VST plug ins) which are giving me pretty good results. Taking this a bit further, it's important as well that parts in the track also have their own space. If you've got parts in the same frequency range they can be fighting for space. This can be helped by sharpening up the eq's to give them their own specific space, and then cutting less important frequencies in the sound. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Abang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 July 2003 22:53 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Production Could be one of two things AFAIK - 1) improper eqing 2) crappy audio engine I don't know how good Fruity Loops' audio engine is, but it may just not process sound as well as other programs. I had a big problem with muddiness at first too. Of course, I didn't know shit about EQing back then either. I don't know how familiar you are with mixing down but being pretty new to it myself i've had a bunch of problems dealing with muddiness. A good guideline to go by for making your mix less muddy: MOST ELEMENTS CAN STAND TO HAVE A NOTCH TAKEN OUT OF THE MIDRANGE FREQUENCIES. Usually stuff gets muddy around here. Sorry if I didn't tell you anything you already know. Tell us a little more about the steps you take to do a mixdown and maybe i (or someone else here) can be of more assistance! :) ~Andy -----Original Message----- From: James Stratford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:09 PM To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Production Hello there forum!!!! I have a question if anyone would be decent enough to answer. Production wise I use fruityloops and vst plugins to create the sounds I am after but the sound from the overall mix I find is quite muddy and not so crisp sounding. Is there any one thing that I should be paying particular attention to in so far as the mixdown goes or do you feel it is a problem inherent with fruityloops? 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