>without using copying a group, how can I rename a group ? >any tellnews command to do it ? No, to rename a group you must use a copy command, the reason is that to correctly rename a group the messages headers need modifying or strange things would happen and so the message files need to be coppied and changed in the database. So the answer is to use tellnews copy_group old.group.name new.group.name ChrisP
