Le 16/02/2015 18:57, Rob Owens a écrit :
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From: "Didier Kryn" <[email protected]>
Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm
anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is
onboard, I mean the audience.
For me, the line between desktop and server is very blurred. I use Debian
in a home environment for myself and family members. I am responsible for
the maintenance of 11 Debian machines.
I am currently maintaining a dozen of embedded powerpcs, a dozen
Dell PowerEdge servers, 3 desktops and my HP laptop, for my job, all
running wheezy. Plus a desktop at home. But I'm not a professional
programmer. I learned what I needed for my job. When considering
Debian's package management, or autotools I feel like a bug
contemplating an ophicleide. No, actually the bug does not care, but you
see what I mean.
I started programming in C in 1980, when Motorolla produced the
6809 microprocessor, with a revolutionary feature: instruction address
could be indexed by a register. This allowed PIC, and Microware
produced the OS9 system, with a C compiler producing PIC by default and
a brand of Emacs. When their development model became crazy, I switched
to Linux, in the 90's. Never touched BSD, but I guess it's familiar. I
learned Ada 6 or 7 years ago and I loved it.
I will retire in ~one month and I consider using part of my leisure
building Pi-Tops for everybody around me. And I hope I can install
Devuan on them. Never liked Gnome. It was too ugly from the begining. I
used KDE until it started to regress. Now on xfce4, but I will give a
try to some of the slim DE described by Steve Litt on his web pages.
Also for the fun of their exotic look and style.
LXDE is the desktop of choice for most, since Gnome 3 was introduced on
Wheezy and the long-term existence of Gnome Classic (or Gnome Fallback) is
questionable. Myself, I use Fluxbox. Some of my machines are CLI only.
Security is a top priority. I also appreciate the large number of
packages that Debian provides. I followed the systemd debates carefully
on debian-user and debian-devel. I now am of the opinion that a large
number of Debian developers are not paranoid enough to be my OS provider.
High-value software to me, in no particular order, includes:
Libreoffice
Firefox
LXDE [2]
Fluxbox
Openbox
Ardour
Jack
easytag
flac
pcmanfm
xterm
xcalc
VLC
mplayer
MythTV (from deb-multimedia.org)
Handbrake (from deb-multimedia.org)
ssh
nfs
ldap
iptables
music player [1]
1: I like Rhythmbox, but the interface is getting worse and the
transcode feature seems finicky. I have been mostly using Guayadeque
recently. I have need for both a basic player, and for something to
transcode flac files to ogg vorbis or mp3 when music is copied to a
portable player or usb stick. On Jessie without systemd, it can no
longer detect removable media, so its days on my system may be numbered.
See my so-far unanswered bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774871
2: Personally, I don't care if Devuan includes Gnome or not. I think
Gnome is so committed to 1) not being optimized for desktops and 2)
using systemd, that it would be fair to simply write it off as unusable
in Devuan. As long as I have alternatives, I am fine with that. Their
vision for their product does not impress me. I think the only reason
they have survived the past several years is because they have been
the default on so many distros for so long. But today I think there
are better choices for default desktop. LXDE and XFCE seem good. But
I honestly think most people would be well-served with something basic
like Fluxbox or Openbox with a customized startup script which runs
wicd, and maybe adding something like fbpanel.
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